Press Release: Atheists to Unveil Florida Courthouse Monument

Cranford, NJ—Following a settlement with Bradford County, Florida, American Atheists will unveil a new monument in front of the Bradford County Courthouse: a 1,500-pound granite bench engraved with quotations from Thomas Jefferson, Madalyn Murray O’Hair, Benjamin Franklin, and others. The bench will sit adjacent to an existing monument featuring the Ten Commandments.

The unveiling is scheduled for June 29 at noon. It is the first atheist-sponsored monument on government property in the United States. American Atheists President David Silverman will deliver the dedication.

The monument features an excerpt from the Treaty of Tripoli, signed by President John Adams, which declares “The United States is in no sense founded on the Christian religion”; and excerpts from the Bible, quoting the biblical punishments for breaking each of the Ten Commandments–many command death.

American Atheists, along with plaintiff Daniel Cooney of Starke, filed suit in May 2012 for the removal of the Ten Commandments monument, citing separation of religion and government because the monument is on government land.

“We have maintained from the beginning that the Ten Commandments doesn’t belong on government property,” said Silverman. “There is no secular purpose for the monument whatsoever and it makes atheists feel like second-class citizens. But if keeping it there means we have the right to install our own monument, then installing our own is exactly what we’ll do.”

“The monument emphasizes the role secularism has played in American history,” said Public Relations Director Dave Muscato. “And the Bible quotes make it clear that the Ten Commandments are not the ‘great moral code’ they’re often portrayed to be. Don’t kill, don’t steal? Of course. But worship only the Judeo-Christian god? That conflicts overtly with the very first right in the Bill of Rights, freedom of religion.”

“When it comes to government and religion, there are only two ways to show equality: all or none,” said Ken Loukinen, Regional Operations Director. “I am glad that Bradford County has chosen to show equality and will be a great example for other cities in Florida and the United States.”

The monument is being furnished by American Atheists via a grant from the Stiefel Freethought Foundation.

Immediately following the unveiling, a public celebration sponsored by the Tallahassee Atheists, the Humanists of Florida, and the Florida Atheists and Secular Humanists (FLASH) is scheduled to take place at the Days Inn by the courthouse on Temple Avenue in Starke, Florida.

RSVP for the unveiling & celebration on Facebook here.

AMERICAN ATHEISTS is a national 501(c)(3) organization that defends civil rights for atheists, freethinkers, and other nonbelievers; works for the total separation of religion and government; and addresses issues of First Amendment public policy. American Atheists celebrates its 50th anniversary this year.

American Atheists, Inc.
P.O. Box 158
Cranford, NJ 07016
Tel: (908) 276-7300
Fax: (908) 276-7402

Keywords: American Atheists, Florida, monument, Bradford County, Madalyn Murray O’Hair, Ten Commandments, secular, separation of church and state, atheism, humanism, freethought

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  • Gael Murphy

    I wonder how long our bench will sit unmolested? We may need secret cameras to catch the inevitable outraged Christians when they come to mar, or destroy it.

    • Jay Klein

      So whoever destroys the monument, they will automatically be labeled a Christian…yep…that’s how it works.

      • Matthew

        No not necessarily…

        but if you would like to place a bet on it that they most likely identify themselves as Christians I would be glad to take your money.

      • Dave

        It’s not the only possible group to get pissy about it, but seeing as how it’s Florida, USA, the Christians are the largest, noisiest and most probable perpetrators of such an act.

      • Bill

        Only a Christian WOULD stoop so low. They have tiny little minds.

        • Jay Klein

          Why do you say this? How can you say this? My mind, thinking, and beliefs are overwhelmed with peace that no one can ever get from this world.

        • Small lamb

          Believers have an incredibly wide perspective as they walk the narrow road. Just as a person who fears God is not afraid of anything. However, they would not either stoop low, because they know they are made by God as an upright person with intended and good moral perspective approved by the Creator. A person who knows Christ would not do any of these things as much as an atheist would like to believe it. They would simply feel sorrow for the person who organized this event and also pray for this and other organizations like these. You wouldn’t be able to tell that they are doing this because they have faith that God sees their heart. As for people who destroy and cause arguments they don’t know Christ, nor do they have him in his heart and I pray that Christ will come into the heart of more and more of such people as I write this. That his kingdom of His good and His righteousness will come in Truth.

    • Kraig Le Fevre

      Yep lets blame the Christians when things go wrong. Lets go after Christians in believing in what Jesus taught people to do like love one another …..plain crazy idea!!

    • disqus_MNAMtCt6hW

      Of course, no Atheist would consider defacing the Christian monument. Is that what you are insinuating?

  • Frances Porgal

    I echoed Gael Murphy’s sentiments on a visit to view the monument now in place in Starke on Mother’s Day this year. I hope that I am wrong and that not only will be the bench be left alone, unmolested, but that other religions, including Muslims, Wicca, Pagans, etc., will join suit in order to keep this equally available to all.

    The Freedoms allowed by our Constitution should be for each and every one as well as those who choose to have no belief.

    We really do appreciate the co-operation of Bradford County in this endeavor and I look forward to seeing our monument being installed next month. One of many firsts I hope.

  • Jeri Martin (82 years old Jan. 3 ) worked at many jobs from age 13 to 80.

    we will see what the cristians will dc, they dis like any thing that looks like competition. I know because I went to Trevecca college,Nashville,Tn. I was told anything I questioned to have faith.
    Geraldine {Jeri} Vitatoe,Martin

  • Jr Fason

    I really like the idea of a bench gives me a place to sit as I admire the Ten Commandments and to teach my son about god

    • Matt Brannon

      That’s pretty much the difference in the monuments personified. Atheists’ actions are useful to others.

      • opa

        Oh really? Where are the atheist hospitals? The atheist charitable organizations? Like the Red Cross, which was started by Christians. The atheist universities? Many of the private colleges were started by Christians, and, sadly, they’ve been taken over by socialists and atheists. The atheist food banks? The atheist coat collection drives in the fall? The atheist suicide hot lines? The atheist help stores like Good Will, St. Vincent De Paul? Most of those are Christian started and maintained. Tell me about doing.

        • Will

          Opa, the atheists are not behind any of the institutions you mentioned. We are in the FRONT with our computers, science, medical research and medicines all developed and made by atheists.

          Also, why are you flashing your “look what christians have done” card? According to your Bible you shall not use your acts of goodness to put others down but to serve God… Read the Bible dude, it’s pretty funny.

    • Blulava

      You said, “and to teach my son about god”

      You mean, ” and to indoctrinate my son towards God”

      FTFY

      • Jay Klein

        Society indoctrinates~ If you are not influenced by God, you are influenced by man…man is just man.

    • Andrew

      Don’t forget Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy while you are giving your mythology lesson.

      • Ken

        Andrew,

        Please answer tis question. We know time, space, and matter had a beginning all at one time. The big bang! Can we agree that that fact is not mythology?

        • chet

          God had a thought and there after we were and all things were..

        • Mike B

          I am a strong atheist, but I am also a sceptic of the big bang theory. Those who came up with that theory obviously do not understand the concept of infinity. If there was a big bang, I think it would have only affected our little dust mote collection of galaxies in the endless reaches of space. To say all of space was created in a big bang is as crazy as the creation myth.

        • Greg Adams

          No, we cannot, actually. The Big Bang is and always has been one possible explanation for the observations and evidence that scientists have found. Although it fits a lot of the current evidence, it cannot be considered a fact in the since that F=ma or E=mc^2 are considered facts. In fact, the latest theoretical ideas in M-theory and multiverses suggest that there may have actually been something before the Big Bang and that there may have been multiple Big Bangs. At this point in time, such ideas are purely conjecture, but they, too, explain some things that the Standard Model cannot. The Big Bang, as the beginning of all things, is far from settled as a fact. That is one of the great beauties of Science: nothing is ever finally settled; there’s always more to learn. Unlike Religion, which simply quits asking any questions.

    • http://none Nancy Bilheimer

      You do that. While you’re at it, teach him to be polite and accepting of others with different beliefs (or none). Maybe you should sit there and contemplate what evidence there is that any gods actually exist.

      • Small lamb

        When you submit to the idea that Christ is God who came to earth in flesh (he belittled himself when he came to earth in our image)… if you truly accept this, something in your life will begin happening that will spiritually reveal God to you. Until then it is difficult to really see God. We can only see God when we humble ourselves, when we stop trusting in what we believe to understand. That’s what humility is. As Christ did for us, we also must become humble before God. And then he will reveal himself to us. this is why you think Christians are crazy. This experience actually happened to them, they are not just thinking about it rationally or using their intellect to find God. They submitted to him by acknowledging that they made mistakes and want to turn to God. Unless anyone does this, it will be impossible to see God. That’s the cornerstone of faith. This is the spiritual battle between God and man’s “intellect”. It is difficult to accept God, it requires humility and becoming less, not more as to figure out whether there is God or not by thinking about it. That’s pride. And God turns away from pride, that’s why an intellect can never find God. Only a good heart, that is up to us to start turning. I hope this helps.

      • Small lamb

        The evidence for God is that when you humble yourself before him he will reveal himself to you. It is a gentle and kind way to communicate. He is a good God. It’s how he made things to be, so that it is easy for us to find him.

      • disqus_MNAMtCt6hW

        The next time you can get something from nothing, do tell.

    • Jay Klein

      Jr~ That’s awesome! I’m having trouble excepting that the court made it possible for a monument to be put in that misrepresents Scripture. Punishments changed when Christ shed His Blood. This is one of the reasons why I don’t believe in atheism. I would tell David Silverman to his face, “Please do not engrave on expensive monuments things that you do not understand.” So really~ this is not quite as equal as he portrays it to be, correct??

      • Rob

        I think you need to open your Bible…

        “For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.” – Matthew 5:18

        • Jay Klein

          Not sure you have the correct meaning of that, friend. Christ paid the penalty of the Law. He has done more for you than you realize…if you are willing to believe~ 2 Corinthians 3:7-18…

    • Kraig Le Fevre

      Love the idea of a bench to sit on, to admire the ten commandments. Thanks atheists of America.

      • Greg Adams

        Hopefully you will also read some of the quotes on the bench…just to get a different perspective.

    • disqus_MNAMtCt6hW

      Yes! Zing! LOL! You made my day, thank you.

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  • http://none Greg

    They would really be in a tough situation if every religion want’t to put up a 1000 lb granite monument!
    I would love to a see a satanic one put up cause that would really make all these superstitious people go loony.

  • http://artanddigital.com Jim Metatron

    If any government building in the USA (or abroad owned by the USA for that matter) is not kept secular the only solution is to have everyone’s culture or rights represented.

    Congratulations, cheers and hats off to American Atheists. It’d be a huge day for Madalyn for sure! And it’s about the best thing left to do for the Constitution and those that keep her. Peace!

  • http://www.in-His-own-image.com archaeopteryx

    About damn time!

    • http://none Nancy Bilheimer

      Amen, brother!

  • Josh

    Who do I contact at the Bradford County Courthouse…I want to put my religious monument up as well. Pastafarian…whose noodly appendage shall not be left out.

    • Martian Colony

      I love the form of activism that the church of the fsm takes; it really get’s the theists thinking (and cursing). Just don’t let it turn into a real religion in a couple hundred years……

  • Alex

    Amen! oh wait…

    Amazing, I hope this catches on elsewhere.

  • http://none Nancy Bilheimer

    I hope to be able to attend this “monumental” event.

  • http://FFRF.ORG Spot the Alrighty

    Y’all just keep on kicking butt, this made my day.

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  • Jay Klein

    I noticed I could not comment on the IRS lawsuit. That will be one of the most devastating lawsuits to ever hit the courts. The organized religious institutions in the U.S. give U.S. and foreign aid to the poor and needy. Some churches as high as 20% of their income. The aid goes toward building schools, supplying medicine, food, fresh water, counseling, farming, and supplying gifts to children who have never received a gift in their life. Atheists claim to be moral, caring, loving people. Here’s the chance to stand by what you say and stop this. That lawsuit is not wise.

  • Bruce Tillson

    Why do the Atheists rally on the fact that they believe someone said that the United States was founded on the Christian Religion? That may have been said by extremist Christian Groups but the majority of God believing people know that it was based on a belief in a higher power. If one believes in a God, then you are allowed not to. Simple as that. It’s wrong that the Atheists want to take the rights away from the Believers. This is why the 1st Amendment was drawn up. Any law passed taking rights away from any religious group or non religious group is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Read the 1st Constitution as it is worded.

  • Bruce Tillson

    Is it only the Christians that Atheists attack? If so they are hypocrites in allowing other religions to do as they please.

    • Bruce Tillson

      I must add that if that is the case, they are very misdirected. The Ten Commandments are not just used by Christians.

      • Jay Klein

        Excellent points. Of all the things to put on their monument, they mock the Word of God?? What is their purpose, what do they want to do for the world? I think engraving something like that would’ve earned them the respect they want. I am also disappointed that the finger is already getting pointed at the Christians if the monument is vandalized. It is only the Christians who don’t like seeing our country’s heritage get destroyed??

        • Margaret

          @Jay Klein, you are mistaken the monument is not there to mock an imaginary personal god but to expose the truth of all that is in the bible that contradicts itself. There by proves the hypocrisy of the religious.

          Most religious people do not know all that is in their bible but instead rely on a cherry picking mostly males to dictate it’s meaning by using deceit as their motifs operandi albeit by priest, ministers & rabbis.

          You can put the same onus on those of other religions as well such as gurus & muslim clerics/imams.

          An atheist is an unbeliever of a deity and or supernatural as opposed to believers in a deity & or the supernatural. It takes the belief in a deity and the supernatural to be religious. Atheism is not a religion.

          Between the old testament & the new, I ask you how you can justify believing in it as in the following biblical quotes.

          “Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.” (Genesis 3:16)

          “Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go.” (Judges 19:24-25)

          The burning of unbelievers was based on the words of Jesus:
          “If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” (John 15:6)

          When one of his disciples requested time off for his father’s funeral, Jesus rebuked him: “Let the dead bury their dead.” (Matthew 8:22)
          “If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.” (Luke 14:26)

          “Of the woman came the beginning of sin, and through her we all die.” (Eccles. 25:22)

          “Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.” (I Timothy 2:11-14

          What profanity and arrogance!!

          You should really re-examine the kind of god you believe in because he is a real misogynistic, dictatorial & full of himself jerk!!!!!!!!!!
          Your god is man made based on some men’s pathetic egos.

          The following is a piece of true American history that makes for another reason to keep religion out of government & publically funded institutions:/

          The most stringent controls on speech in the colonial period were controls that outlawed or otherwise censored speech that was considered blasphemous in a religious sense. A 1646 Massachusetts law, for example, punished persons who denied the immortality of the soul. In 1612, a Virginia governor declared the death penalty for a person that denied the Trinity under Virginia’s Laws Divine, Moral and Martial, which also outlawed blasphemy, speaking badly of ministers and royalty, and “disgraceful word.

          • Jay Klein

            Margaret~ I am a woman too and I do know the Bible. I can explain those verses to you, if you are willing to believe. I can’t speak for other religions…there are many different Bibles. I am a Christian and I read from a King James translation and it does not contradict itself. We simply can’t read the Bible for what it says. It has to be studied. The Verses go together for one purpose. You are correct in saying that we cannot cherry pick. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Atheist leaders are guilty of doing this~ like what’s on the Atheist monument?? Most ministers I have heard will pick verses from a chapter and apply it to everyday life…this is what God wants us to do. I’m not trying to pick a fight, but I disagree that the Atheist monument does not mock God. God sent His Son to pay the penalty of the Law. No one is going to get stoned if they disobey the Ten Commandments~ true story. What they put on the monument takes the authority away from Christ. That was my point~Atheists leaders love distorting the Bible…they do this easily because they do not understand it. Please don’t fall for that. You can have more than just this life~ Christ died so EVERYONE can have eternal life. We accept Him willingly and freely. I hope this post does not get deleted.

        • Margaret

          @Jay Klein, I am responding to your response to me.
          You say you are a woman but your name is that of male.
          You say you can explain away those passages in the bible yet you do not. You speak with hollow words.

          I will not respond to anymore of your non sensical rederick that is repeated over & over by many Christians.
          You have been obviously coached what to say by your preachers or ministers but yet cannot intellectually explain any positive reasons as to why these passages are moral.

          Do yourself a favor & explore beyond your programed teachings & you will find that many scholars can prove that jesus never existed but was just another fiction to be told. One that emulates many past myth deities that pre-date the jesus myth.

          A good place to start is this website put out by a very learned Scholar.
          Truth Be Known http://www.truthbeknown.com/

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  • Doc D

    Like Tucker Carlson said on Fox News when they were bashing it, “I have a feeling that bench will be a magnet for graffiti, Just a guess.”
    Standard Christian response, if we don’t agree with it, we will just destroy or kill it! (all the laws go out the window)…
    I would love to see a Muslim group put up a statue…

    • Jim

      Hi Doc D,

      90 Verses in the Bible say Jesus is not God

      All four Gospels record Jesus as saying, “Blessed

      are the peace-makers; they will be called sons of God.”

      The word ‘son’ cannot be accepted literally because in the Bible, God apparently
      addresses many of his chosen servants as ‘son’ and ‘sons.’ The Hebrews believed
      God is One, and had neither wife nor children in any literal sense. Therefore,
      it is obvious the expression ‘son of God’ merely meant ‘Servant of God’; one
      who, because of faithful service, was close and dear to God as a son is to his
      father.

      Christians who came from a Greek or Roman background, later misused this term.
      In

      their heritage, ‘son of God’ signified an incarnation of a god or someone born
      of a physical union between male and female gods. This can be seen in Acts 14:
      11-13, where we read that when Paul and Barnabas preached in a city of Turkey,
      pagans claimed they were gods incarnate. They called Barnabas the Roman god
      Zeus, and Paul the Roman god Hermes.

      Furthermore, the New Testament Greek word translated as ‘son’ are ‘pias’ and
      ‘paida’ which mean ‘servant,’ or ‘son in the sense of servant.’ These are
      translated to ‘son’ in reference to Jesus and ‘servant’ in reference to all
      others in some translations of the Bible. So, consistent with other verses,
      Jesus was merely saying that he is God’s servant.

      Additional problems with Trinity

      To a christian, God had to take human form to understand temptation and human
      suffering, but the concept is not based on any clear words of Jesus. In

      contrast, God does not need to be tempted and suffer in order to be able to
      understand and forgive man’s sins, for He is the all knowing Creator of man.

      This is expressed in the verse:

      ‘And the Lord said: ‘I have surely seen the affliction of My people that are in
      Egypt, and I have heard their cry because of their taskmasters; for I know
      their pains.’ (Exodus 3:7)

      God forgave sin before Jesus’ appearance, and He continues to forgive without
      any assistance. When a believer sins, he may come before God in sincere

      repentance to receive forgiveness. Indeed, the offer to humble oneself before
      God and be saved is made to all humankind.

      ‘And there is no God else beside Me; a just God and a Savior; there is none
      beside Me. Look to Me, and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God,
      and there is none else.’ (Isaiah 45:21-22, Jonah 3:5-10)

      Biblically, people can receive forgiveness of sins through sincere repentance
      sought directly from God. This is true at all times and in all places.

      There has never been a need for the so-called inter cessionary role Jesus plays
      in attaining atonement. The facts speak for themselves. There is no truth to
      the Christian belief that Jesus died for our sins and salvation

      is only through Jesus. What about the salvation of people before Jesus? Jesus’
      death brings neither atonement from sin, nor is it in any way a fulfillment of
      biblical prophecy.

      Christians claim that in the birth of Jesus, there occurred the miracle of the
      incarnation of God in the form of a human being. To say that God became truly a
      human

      being invites a number of questions. Let us ask the following about the man-God
      Jesus. What happened to his foreskin after his circumcision (Luke 2:21)?

      Did it ascend to heaven, or did it decompose as with any human piece of flesh?

      During his lifetime what happened to his hair, nails, and blood shed from
      wounds? Did the cells of his body die as in ordinary human beings?

      If his body did not function in a truly human way, he could not be truly human
      as well as truly God. Yet, if his body functioned exactly in a human way, this
      would nullify any claim to divinity. It would be impossible for any part of
      God, even if incarnate, to decompose in any way and still be considered God.
      The everlasting, one God, in whole or in part, does not die, disintegrate, or
      decompose: ‘For I the Lord do not change.’ (Malachi 3:6)

      Did Jesus’ flesh dwell in safety after his death?

      Unless Jesus’ body never underwent ‘decay’ during his lifetime he could not be
      God, but if it did not undergo ‘decay’ then he was not truly human.

      Bible says that God is not man

      ‘God is not a man’ (Numbers 23:19)

      ‘For I am God, and not man’ (Hosea 11:9)

      Jesus is called a man many times in the Bible

      ‘a man who has told you the truth’ (John 8:40)

      ‘Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and
      signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves
      know.’ (Acts 2:22)

      ‘He will judge the world in righteousness through a man whom He has appointed’
      (Acts 17:31)

      ‘the man Christ Jesus’ (Tim. 2:5)

      The Bible says that God is not a son of man

      ‘God is not a man nor a son of man’ (Numbers 23:19)

      The Bible often calls Jesus ‘a son of man’ or ‘the son of man.’

      ‘so will the son of man be’ (Matthew 12:40)

      ‘For the son of man is going to come’ (Matthew 16:27)

      ‘until they see the son of man coming in His kingdom.’ (Matthew 28)

      ‘But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority’ (Mark 2:10)

      ‘because he is the son of man’ (John 5:27)

      In the Hebrew scriptures, the ‘son of man’ is also used many times speaking of
      people (Job 25:6; Psalm 80:17;

      144:3; Ezekiel 2:1; 2:3; 2:6-8; 3:1-3).

      Since God would not contradict Himself by first saying He is not the son of a
      man, then becoming a human being who was called ‘the son of man’, he would not
      have done so. Remember God is not the author of

      confusion. Also, human beings, including Jesus, are called ‘son of man’
      specifically to distinguish them from God, who is not a ‘son of man’ according
      to the Bible.

      The Bible says that Jesus denied he is God

      Jesus spoke to a man who had called him ‘good,’ asking him, ‘Why do you call me
      good? No one is good except God alone.’ (Luke 18:19)

      And he said to him, ‘Why are you asking me about what is good? There is only
      One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.’
      (Matthew 19:17)

      Jesus did not teach people that he was God

      If Jesus had been telling people that he was God, he would have complimented
      the man. Instead, Jesus rebuked him, denying he was good, that is, Jesus

      denied he was God.

      The Bible says that God is greater than Jesus

      ‘My Father is greater than I’ (John 14:28)

      ‘My father is greater than all.’ (John 10:29)

      Jesus can not be God if God is greater than him.

      The Christian belief that the Father and son are equal is in direct contrast to
      the clear words from Jesus.

      Jesus never instructed his disciples to worship him

      ‘When you pray, say Our Father which art in heaven.’ (Luke 11:2)

      ‘In that day, you shall ask me nothing. Whatsoever

      you ask of the Father in my name.’ (John 16:23)

      ‘The hour cometh and now is, when the true worshippers

      shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the Father seeketh such to
      worship him.’ (John 4:23)

      If Jesus was God, he would have sought worship for

      himself

      Since he didn’t, instead he sought worship for God in the heavens, therefore,
      he was not God.

      Jesus worshipped the only true God

      ‘that they might know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have
      sent.’ (John 17:3)

      ‘he continued all night in prayer to God.’ (Luke 6:12)

      ‘Just as the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve’ (Matthew
      20:28)

      How did Jesus pray to God?

      ‘he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, ‘My Father’ (Matthew 26:39)

      ‘During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up

      prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him
      from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.’ (Hebrews 5:7)

      Who was Jesus praying to when he fell on his face?

      Was Jesus crying in tears to himself pleading to be saved from death? No man,
      sane or insane, prays to himself! Surely the answer must be a resounding

      ‘No.’ Jesus was praying to ‘the only true God.’ Jesus was the servant of the

      One Who sent him. Can there be a clearer proof that Jesus was not God?

      The Quran confirms that Jesus called for the worship of

      the Only True God:

      “It is Allah Who is my Lord and your Lord; then worship

      Him. This is a Way that is straight.” (Quran 3:51)

      Disciples did not believe Jesus was God

      The Acts of the Apostles in the Bible details the activity of the disciples
      over a period of thirty years after Jesus was raised to heaven.

      Throughout this period, they never referred to Jesus as God. For instance Peter
      stood up with the eleven disciples and addressed a crowd saying:

      ‘Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a

      man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did
      among you through him, as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22)

      For Peter, Jesus was a servant of God (confirmed in Matthew 12:18)

      ‘The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his
      servant Jesus.’ (Acts 3:13)

      ‘God raised up his servant’ (Acts 3:26)

      When faced by opposition from the authorities, Peter said

      ‘We must obey God rather than men! The God of our fathers raised Jesus’ (Acts
      5:29-30)

      The disciples prayed to God just as they were commanded by Jesus in Luke 11:2,
      and considered Jesus to be God’s servant.

      ‘they raised their voices together in prayer to

      God. ‘Sovereign Lord,’ they said, ‘you made the heaven and the earth and the
      sea, and everything in them.’ (Acts 4:24)

      ‘your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed.’ (Acts 4:27)

      ‘of Your holy servant Jesus.’ (Acts 4:30)

      ‘I am indeed a servant of God.’ (Quran 19:30)

      The Bible says that Jesus was God’s servant

      ‘Behold, My servant, whom I have chosen, in whom My soul is well pleased.’
      (Matt 12:18) Since Jesus is God’s

      servant, Jesus can not be God.

      The Bible says that Jesus could not do anything by

      himself

      ‘The son can do nothing by himself; he can only do what he sees his Father

      doing.’ (John 5:19)

      ‘I can of mine own self do nothing.’ (John 5:30)

      The Bible says that Jesus did not consider himself equal

      with God

      and that God performed miracles through Jesus & Jesus was limited in what
      he could do:

      ‘But when the crowds saw this, they were awestruck, and

      glorified God, who had given such authority to men.’ (Matt. 9:8)

      ‘a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God
      performed through Him in your midst.’ (Acts 2:22)

      ‘he went about doing good and healing all who were

      oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.’ (Acts 10:38)

      If Christ was God, the Bible would simply say that Jesus

      did the miracles himself without making reference to God. The fact that it was
      God supplying the power for the miracles shows that God is greater than Jesus.

      Also, Jesus was limited in performing miracles

      One time when Jesus tried to heal a blind man, the man was not healed after the
      first attempt, and Jesus had to try a second time (Mark 8:22-26).

      Once a woman was healed of her incurable bleeding.

      The woman came up behind him and touched his cloak, and she was immediately
      healed. But Jesus had no idea who touched him:

      ‘At once Jesus realized that power had gone out from

      him. He turned around in the crowd and asked, ‘Who touched my clothes?’ (Mark
      5:30)

      ‘He could not do any miracles there, except lay his hands

      on a few sick people and heal them.’ (Mark 6:5)

      Quite obviously, someone with such limitations can not be God. The power of
      miracles was not within Jesus.

      The Bible says that at times of weakness angels

      strengthened Jesus

      God ,however, does not need to be strengthened. Human need to be strengthened;

      God does not because God is All-Powerful. If Jesus had to be strengthened, he
      must not be God.

      ‘An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him – in the garden of
      Gethsemane’ (Luke 22:43)

      ‘Then the devil left him; and behold, angels came and

      began to minister to Him’ (Mark. 1:13)

      ‘And he was in the wilderness forty days being tempted by Satan; and he was
      with the wild beasts, and the angels were ministering to him.’ (Mark 1:13)

      The Bible says that Jesus wanted God’s will to be done

      ‘not my will but Yours be done.’ (Luke 22:42)

      ‘I do not seek my own will, but the will of Him who sent

      me.’ (John 5:30)

      ‘For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will,

      but the will of Him that sent me.’ (John 6:38)

      Are some members of the coequal Trinity subservient, and less than equal, to
      other members? Even though they have different wills

      (‘I do not seek my own will’), do they obey without question the others’
      commands (‘the will of Him who sent me’)? Jesus admits to subordinating his own
      distinct will, yet according to the Trinitarian doctrine they should

      all have the same will. Should one of the triune partners have to forgo his own
      will in favor of the will of another member of the Trinity? Should not they all
      have the exact same will?

      The Bible says Jesus regarded himself and God as two

      ‘I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father.’ (John
      8:17-18:)

      ‘Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust

      also in me.’ (John 14:1)

      If Jesus was God, He would have not have regarded God’s testimony as separate
      from his own.

      The Bible says that Jesus is subordinate to God

      ‘Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head
      of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.’ (1 Corinthians 11:3)

      ‘When he has done this, then the son himself will be made subject to him who
      put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.’ (1 Corinthians 15:28)

      Bible says that Jesus grew in wisdom & learning

      But God is All Wise & does not need to learn: Jesus grew in wisdom, but God
      is all wise ‘Great is our Lord and abundant in strength; His understanding is
      infinite.’

      (Psalms 147:5)

      ‘And Jesus increased in wisdom.’ (Luke 2:52)

      God does not need to learn, but Jesus learned: ‘Although

      he was a son, he learned obedience’ (Heb. 5:8)

      Jesus had limited knowledge, but god’s knowledge is

      infinite. Since Jesus did not know, he was not all-knowing, and therefore, he
      cannot be the God whose knowledge is all-encompassing.

      ‘No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the
      son, but only the Father.’ (Mark

      13:32)

      Bible says that Jesus was tempted, but God cannot be

      tempted

      ’tempted in every way – just as we are’ (Heb. 4:15)

      ‘for God cannot be tempted by evil’ (James 1:13)

      Since God can not be tempted, but Jesus was, therefore, Jesus was not God.

      Bible says that Jesus’ teachings were from God, not from

      himself

      ‘So Jesus answered them and said, ‘My teaching is not mine, but His who sent
      me.’ (John 7:16)

      Jesus could not have said this if he were God because the doctrine would have
      been his.

      Bible says that Jesus died, but God cannot die

      The Bible teaches that Jesus died. God cannot die. Romans 1:23 and other verses
      say that God is immortal. Immortal means, ‘not subject to death.’ This term

      applies only to God.

      Bible says that Jesus lived because of God

      ‘I live because of the Father.’ (John 6:57)

      Jesus cannot be God because he depended on God for his own existence.

      Bible says that Jesus’ powers were given to him

      ‘All power is given unto me.’ (Matt 28:18)

      God is all-powerful, no one gives God His powers, otherwise He would not be God

      because He would be weak. Therefore, Jesus could not be God.

      Bible says that Jesus was taught & commanded by God

      ‘As my Father hath taught me, I speak these things,’ (John 8:28)

      ‘The Father, who sent me, he gave me a commandment.’ (John 12:49)

      ‘I have kept my Father’s commandments.’ (John 15:10)

      No one can teach God, otherwise God cannot be All-Knowing and would owe His
      teacher. Since Jesus was taught and commanded by God,

      Jesus cannot be God himself. The teacher and the student, the commander and the
      commanded are not one.

      Bible says that God made Jesus ‘Lord’!

      ‘God has made this Jesus both Lord and Christ.’ (Acts 2:36)

      ‘Lord’ is used in many ways in the Bible, and others beside God and Jesus are
      called ‘Lord.’ For example:

      1) property owners (Matt. 20:8)

      2) heads of households (Mark 13:35)

      3) slave owners (Matt. 10:24)

      4) husbands (1 Pet. 3:6)

      5) a son called his father Lord (Matt.

      21:30)

      6) the Roman Emperor was called Lord (Acts 25:26)

      7) Roman authorities were called Lord (Matt. 27:63)

      ‘Lord’ is not the same as ‘God.’ ‘Lord’ (the Greek word

      is kurios) is a masculine title of respect and nobility used many times in the
      Bible. If Jesus was God, then for the Bible to say he was ‘made’ Lord would
      make no sense.

      Bible says that Jesus was lower than angels

      ‘But we do see him who was made for a little while lower than the angels,
      namely, Jesus.’ (Hebrews 2:9)

      God, the Creator of angels, can not be lower than His own creation, but Jesus
      was. Therefore, Jesus was not God.

      Bible says that Jesus called the Father ‘my God’

      ‘My God, My God, why have You forsaken me?’ (Matt.

      27:46)

      ‘I ascend to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.’ (John 20:17)

      ‘the temple of my God the name of my God the city of my

      God comes down out of heaven from my God.’ (Rev. 3:12)

      Jesus did not think of himself as God, instead Jesus’ God is the same as ours.

      Bible says that God cannot be seen

      But Jesus was seen by others ‘no man has seen God at any time.’ (John 1:18)

      Bible says twice that Jesus was accused of being God

      But he denied it: According to the Bible, on only two instances the Jews
      opposed Jesus on the basis that he pretended to be God or equal with God. Had
      Jesus, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, claimed to be God, he is
      likely to have been opposed on this basis more frequently.

      Because in these two instances, when charged, in the one case, with making
      himself God, and in the other, with making himself equal with God, he denied
      the charges. In reply to the charge of being an equal with God, he says
      immediately:

      ‘The son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the

      Father do’; and directly after ‘I can of mine own self do nothing.’ (John 5:19,
      30)

      In answer to the charge of making himself God, he appeals to the Jews in
      substance thus: Your own Scriptures call Moses a god, and your magistrates
      gods; I am surely not inferior to them, yet I did not call myself

      God, but only the ‘son’ of God (John 10:34-36).

      This is unlikely to have been Jesus’ actual response.

      Hastings in ‘The Dictionary of the Bible’ says, ‘Whether Jesus used it of
      himself is doubtful.’ Grolier’s encyclopedia, under the heading ‘Jesus Christ,’

      says, ‘it is uncertain whether the Father/Son language (Mark 18:32; Matt. 11:25-27
      par.; John passim) goes back to Jesus himself.’ A University of Richmond

      professor, Dr. Robert Alley, after considerable research into newly found
      ancient documents concludes that:

      ‘The (Biblical) passages where Jesus talks about the Son

      of God are later additions. what the church said about him. Such a claim of
      deity for himself would not have been consistent with his entire lifestyle as
      we can reconstruct. For the first three decades after Jesus’ death

      Christianity continued as a sect within Judaism. The first three decades of the
      existence of the church were within the synagogue. That would have been beyond
      belief if they (the followers) had boldly proclaimed the deity of

      Jesus.’

      Assuming Jesus did say that he was ‘son’ of God.

      What did it mean? We first need to know the language of his people, the
      language of the Jews to whom he was speaking.

      May God Bless You and Give You Guidance….Worship only one Almighty God
      without partners…follow your Greatest Commandment…

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  • donald

    But what in the world does the monument really say? No one seems to know on the various websites, including yours.

  • http://www.floodx.com Jas

    Religion will always be tangled with government
    as it is too useful a tool for politicians to manipulate
    peoples fears and hopes. Maybe one day,,, ah forget it.

  • Archie bushee

    No one wants to take rights away. Religious artifacts do not belong on government property. Or we end up with this mess. Now well need Buddhas,prayer rugs,pentagrams,etc. Keep religion in the private sector and it becomes a non issue. Why goof it up by braking the basics?

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  • Moisha

    And…..where did the granite come from……..did it just appear?

  • http://idon'thaveone Aaron

    I am not a believer, but I don’t think this is the right solution. Soon enough representatives of all religions will want their monument placed alongside these. It would be much better to say no to everyone.

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  • Kraig Le Fevre

    You went to college????? scary very scary

  • NJude

    I really don’t understand this… Why the need to put punishments from scripture on your “monument”? I would like an articulate response to this one. I guess I also don’t understand why any monument to someone’s beliefs (atheism is a belief) is being put on public property (I think this is public property, correct me if I am wrong).

    I think the point AA is trying to make is not to celebrate themselves, which would be fine, but to incite angry feelings from others, or just draw more people to their website. Seems like a giant cry for attention.

    I have absolutely nothing against atheists. But I will be honest – I find this completely ridiculous. Almost laughable. I do hope nobody vandalizes though…

    • NJude

      I will moderate myself here – didn’t realize they were erecting both. Just have none, for goodness sakes. This is going to look so stupid!

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  • Mark

    Jesus was not all about love in Luke 14:26 Jesus says “Whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and even life itself, cannot be my disciple.” That dosen’t sound like love to me.

    • rob15

      Doesn’t sound to me like you know how to take language other than literally. Jesus often spoke in parables; so did OT prophets. They also spoke in other kinds of figurative/non-literal language – e.g., metaphor, hyperbole. Christians depend on the Holy Spirit, scholarly knowledge of language use, and common sense to interpret Scripture. Please don’t think you’ve got Jesus on ‘hate speech’ on this one. Read something like Dallas Willard’s KNOWING CHRIST TODAY if you want a read you’ll feel good about being able to refute, if you indeed can. (Willard, recently deceased, taught philosophy at USC.)

    • Small lamb

      Hebrew and Aramaic are relative languages. They are not like today’s English. This is why you often see Love and hate as contrast. To make a point, not to state something literally. This is God talking. Not a man.

    • Small lamb

      At first I felt the same way. But after some time I began to understand what Christ means. He is speaking in parables. Thousands of years ago, a man called Isaiah said that it would happen. That he would come and speak only in parables, and people would not understand. With respect to you, this is what is happening exactly. This verse requires interpretation if you are a non-believer. And it can be understood freely by a man who accepted Christ and can understand his parables spiritually. The meaning of this passage lies in the importance of following God through Jesus Christ above anything else. He made your father and mother. He made your wife and your children. Your brothers and sisters and even life itself. This is why he is called Lord. Many people today follow man, what their father or mother tells them to do, and they follow it… here is the key, even when it is against what the Lord instructs them to do. We make choices in all of our behavior. Nobody makes us do anything. We choose to do either good or evil. When you do good, you are following Christ. It applies to everyone because any person can act in disobedience to Christ, whose ways promote good things only such as peace, steadfastness, confidence, kindness and love toward others. And people who are disobedient to Christ’s commands are not to be followed. It means do not do all the bad things like have hate toward others, because it is against the Law of God. But rather follow Christ alone. He is God of the Universe, of you and of I. The reason he said this is because in those times many people followed disobedient thoughts of men. Christ here does not imply that you should have feelings of hate toward anyone, but rather that you use your conscience to choose good instead of evil. To not do what others do who do not believe in Christ. Remember, when he came, nobody fully grasped that God came to earth. The reason he came is to save them from their ways, to show them the right path, instead of their own ways they invented. I myself don’t fully understand everything, and I pray this will help understand the context of this passage.

  • Isaiah

    If you want a bench there,go ahead.If another religion wants a monument there,let them have it.All views should be respected and shown,but by the comments of some of you,you have a stereotypical view of religion.I no longer follow a religion,but i believe that religious people can have monuments wherever they want just as atheists can.To say that this is stupid as NJude said is very weak minded.It shows culture,our culture.Does it mean the government is run by these values?No.Should religion play a part in judgement?No.If it does,the judge should be punished and likely will be.

  • Margaret

    Fantastic!!!!!
    & excellent job for standing up for atheist every where and going against the hypocrisy of the religious.

    • disqus_MNAMtCt6hW

      Are you saying Aesthesis are not possible of hypocrisy? A simple ‘Yes’ or ‘No’ will suffice. Thank you.

    • Jim

      Hi Margaret,
      90 Verses in the Bible say Jesus is not God

      All four Gospels record Jesus as saying, “Blessed are the peace-makers; they will be called sons of God.”

      The word ‘son’ cannot be accepted literally because in the Bible, God
      apparently addresses many of his chosen servants as ‘son’ and ‘sons.’ The Hebrews
      believed God is One, and had neither wife nor children in any literal sense.
      Therefore, it is obvious the expression ‘son of God’ merely meant ‘Servant of
      God’; one who, because of faithful service, was close and dear to God as a son
      is to his father.

      Christians who came from a Greek or Roman background, later misused this term.

      In their heritage, ‘son of God’ signified an incarnation of a god or someone
      born of a physical union between male and female gods. This can be seen in Acts
      14: 11-13, where we read that when Paul and Barnabas preached in a city of
      Turkey, pagans claimed they were gods incarnate. They called Barnabas the Roman
      god Zeus, and Paul the Roman god Hermes.

      Furthermore, the New Testament Greek word translated as ‘son’ are ‘pias’ and
      ‘paida’ which mean ‘servant,’ or ‘son in the sense of servant.’ These are
      translated to ‘son’ in reference to Jesus and ‘servant’ in reference to all

      others in some translations of the Bible. So, consistent with other verses,
      Jesus was merely saying that he is God’s servant.

      Additional problems with Trinity

      To a christian, God had to take human form to understand temptation and human
      suffering, but the concept is not based on any clear words of Jesus. In

      contrast, God does not need to be tempted and suffer in order to be able to
      understand and forgive man’s sins, for He is the all knowing Creator of man.

      This is expressed in the verse:

      ‘And the Lord said: ‘I have surely seen the affliction of My people that are in
      Egypt, and I have heard their cry because of their taskmasters; for I know
      their pains.’ (Exodus 3:7)

      God forgave sin before Jesus’ appearance, and He continues to forgive without
      any assistance. When a believer sins, he may come before God in sincere

      repentance to receive forgiveness. Indeed, the offer to humble oneself before
      God and be saved is made to all humankind.

      ‘And there is no God else beside Me; a just God and a Savior; there is none
      beside Me. Look to Me, and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God,
      and there is none else.’ (Isaiah 45:21-22, Jonah 3:5-10)

      Biblically, people can receive forgiveness of sins through sincere repentance
      sought directly from God. This is true at all times and in all places.

      There has never been a need for the so-called inter cessionary role Jesus plays
      in attaining atonement. The facts speak for themselves. There is no truth to
      the Christian belief that Jesus died for our sins and salvation is only through
      Jesus. What about the salvation of people before Jesus? Jesus’ death brings
      neither atonement from sin, nor is it in any way a fulfillment of biblical

      prophecy.

      Christians claim that in the birth of Jesus, there occurred the miracle of the
      incarnation of God in the form of a human being. To say that God became truly a
      human being invites a number of questions. Let us ask the following about the
      man-God

      Jesus. What happened to his foreskin after his circumcision (Luke 2:21)?

      Did it ascend to heaven, or did it decompose as with any human piece of flesh?

      During his lifetime what happened to his hair, nails, and blood shed from
      wounds? Did the cells of his body die as in ordinary human beings?

      If his body did not function in a truly human way, he could not be truly human
      as well as truly God. Yet, if his body functioned exactly in a human way, this
      would nullify any claim to divinity. It would be impossible for any part of

      God, even if incarnate, to decompose in any way and still be considered God.

      The everlasting, one God, in whole or in part, does not die, disintegrate, or
      decompose: ‘For I the Lord do not change.’ (Malachi 3:6)

      Did Jesus’ flesh dwell in safety after his death?

      Unless Jesus’ body never underwent ‘decay’ during his lifetime he could not be
      God, but if it did not undergo ‘decay’ then he was not truly human.

      Bible says that God is not man

      ‘God is not a man’ (Numbers 23:19)

      ‘For I am God, and not man’ (Hosea 11:9)

      Jesus is called a man many times in the Bible

      ‘a man who has told you the truth’ (John 8:40)

      ‘Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and
      signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves
      know.’ (Acts 2:22)

      ‘He will judge the world in righteousness through a man whom He has appointed’
      (Acts 17:31)

      ‘the man Christ Jesus’ (Tim. 2:5)

      The Bible says that God is not a son of man

      ‘God is not a man nor a son of man’ (Numbers 23:19)

      The Bible often calls Jesus ‘a son of man’ or ‘the son of man.’

      ‘so will the son of man be’ (Matthew 12:40)

      ‘For the son of man is going to come’ (Matthew 16:27)

      ‘until they see the son of man coming in His kingdom.’ (Matthew 28)

      ‘But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority’ (Mark 2:10)

      ‘because he is the son of man’ (John 5:27)

      In the Hebrew scriptures, the ‘son of man’ is also used many times speaking of

      people (Job 25:6; Psalm 80:17;

      144:3; Ezekiel 2:1; 2:3; 2:6-8; 3:1-3).

      Since God would not contradict Himself by first saying He is not the son of a
      man, then becoming a human being who was called ‘the son of man’, he would not
      have done so. Remember God is not the author of confusion. Also, human beings,
      including Jesus, are called ‘son of man’ specifically to distinguish them from
      God, who is not a ‘son of man’ according to the Bible.

      The Bible says that Jesus denied he is God

      Jesus spoke to a man who had called him ‘good,’ asking him, ‘Why do you call me
      good? No one is good except God alone.’ (Luke 18:19)

      And he said to him, ‘Why are you asking me about what is good? There is only
      One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.’
      (Matthew 19:17)

      Jesus did not teach people that he was God

      If Jesus had been telling people that he was God, he would have complimented
      the man. Instead, Jesus rebuked him, denying he was good, that is, Jesus

      denied he was God.

      The Bible says that God is greater than Jesus

      ‘My Father is greater than I’ (John 14:28)

      ‘My father is greater than all.’ (John 10:29)

      Jesus can not be God if God is greater than him.

      The Christian belief that the Father and son are equal is in direct contrast to
      the clear words from Jesus.

      Jesus never instructed his disciples to worship him

      ‘When you pray, say Our Father which art in heaven.’ (Luke 11:2)

      ‘In that day, you shall ask me nothing. Whatsoever

      you ask of the Father in my name.’ (John 16:23)

      ‘The hour cometh and now is, when the true worshippers

      shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the Father seeketh such to
      worship him.’ (John 4:23)

      If Jesus was God, he would have sought worship for himself Since he didn’t,
      instead he sought worship for God in the heavens, therefore, he was not God.

      Jesus worshipped the only true God

      ‘that they might know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have
      sent.’ (John 17:3)

      ‘he continued all night in prayer to God.’ (Luke 6:12)

      ‘Just as the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve’ (Matthew
      20:28)

      How did Jesus pray to God?

      ‘he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, ‘My Father’ (Matthew 26:39)

      ‘During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up

      prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him
      from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.’ (Hebrews 5:7)

      Who was Jesus praying to when he fell on his face?

      Was Jesus crying in tears to himself pleading to be saved from death? No man,
      sane or insane, prays to himself! Surely the answer must be a resounding ‘No.’
      Jesus was praying to ‘the only true God.’ Jesus was the servant of the One Who
      sent him. Can there be a clearer proof that Jesus was not God?

      The Quran confirms that Jesus called for the worship of

      the Only True God:

      “It is Allah Who is my Lord and your Lord; then worship

      Him. This is a Way that is straight.” (Quran 3:51)

      Disciples did not believe Jesus was God The Acts of the Apostles in the Bible
      details the activity of the disciples

      over a period of thirty years after Jesus was raised to heaven.

      Throughout this period, they never referred to Jesus as God. For instance Peter
      stood up with the eleven disciples and addressed a crowd saying:

      ‘Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God
      to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as
      you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22)

      For Peter, Jesus was a servant of God (confirmed in Matthew 12:18)

      ‘The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his
      servant Jesus.’ (Acts 3:13)

      ‘God raised up his servant’ (Acts 3:26)

      When faced by opposition from the authorities, Peter said

      ‘We must obey God rather than men! The God of our fathers raised Jesus’ (Acts
      5:29-30)

      The disciples prayed to God just as they were commanded by Jesus in Luke 11:2,
      and considered Jesus to be God’s servant.

      ‘they raised their voices together in prayer to God. ‘Sovereign Lord,’ they
      said, ‘you made the heaven and the earth and the sea, and everything in them.’
      (Acts 4:24)

      ‘your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed.’ (Acts 4:27)

      ‘of
      Your holy servant Jesus.’ (Acts 4:30)

      ‘I am indeed a servant of God.’ (Quran 19:30)

      The Bible says that Jesus was God’s servant

      ‘Behold, My servant, whom I have chosen, in whom My soul is well pleased.’

      (Matt 12:18) Since Jesus is God’s servant, Jesus can not be God.

      The Bible says that Jesus could not do anything by himself

      ‘The son can do nothing by himself; he can only do what he sees his Father
      doing.’ (John 5:19)

      ‘I can of mine own self do nothing.’ (John 5:30)

      The Bible says that Jesus did not consider himself equal with God and that God
      performed miracles through Jesus & Jesus was limited in what he could do:

      ‘But when the crowds saw this, they were awestruck, and

      glorified God, who had given such authority to men.’ (Matt. 9:8)

      ‘a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God
      performed through Him in your midst.’ (Acts 2:22)

      ‘he went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for
      God was with Him.’ (Acts 10:38)

      If Christ was God, the Bible would simply say that Jesus

      did the miracles himself without making reference to God. The fact that it was
      God supplying the power for the miracles shows that God is greater than Jesus.

      Also, Jesus was limited in performing miracles

      One time when Jesus tried to heal a blind man, the man was not healed after the
      first attempt, and Jesus had to try a second time (Mark 8:22-26).

      Once a woman was healed of her incurable bleeding.

      The woman came up behind him and touched his cloak, and she was immediately
      healed. But Jesus had no idea who touched him:

      ‘At once Jesus realized that power had gone out from him. He turned around in
      the crowd and asked, ‘Who touched my clothes?’ (Mark 5:30)

      ‘He could not do any miracles there, except lay his hands

      on a few sick people and heal them.’ (Mark 6:5)

      Quite obviously, someone with such limitations can not be God. The power of
      miracles was not within Jesus.

      The Bible says that at times of weakness angels strengthened Jesus God
      ,however, does not need to be strengthened. Human need to be strengthened;

      God does not because God is All-Powerful. If Jesus had to be strengthened, he
      must not be God.

      ‘An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him – in the garden of
      Gethsemane’ (Luke 22:43)

      ‘Then the devil left him; and behold, angels came and

      began to minister to Him’ (Mark. 1:13)

      ‘And he was in the wilderness forty days being tempted by Satan; and he was with
      the wild beasts, and the angels were ministering to him.’ (Mark 1:13)

      The Bible says that Jesus wanted God’s will to be done

      ‘not my will but Yours be done.’ (Luke 22:42)

      ‘I do not seek my own will, but the will of Him who sent me.’ (John 5:30)

      ‘For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of Him that
      sent me.’ (John 6:38)

      Are some members of the coequal Trinity subservient, and less than equal, to
      other members? Even though they have different wills (‘I do not seek my own
      will’), do they obey without question the others’ commands (‘the will of Him
      who sent me’)? Jesus admits to subordinating his own distinct will, yet
      according to the Trinitarian doctrine they should all have the same will.
      Should one of the triune partners have to forgo his own will in favor of the
      will of another member of the Trinity? Should not they all

      have the exact same will?

      The Bible says Jesus regarded himself and God as two

      ‘I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father.’ (John 8:17-18:)

      ‘Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me.’ (John
      14:1)

      If Jesus was God, He would have not have regarded God’s testimony as separate
      from his own.

      The Bible says that Jesus is subordinate to God

      ‘Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head
      of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.’ (1 Corinthians 11:3)

      ‘When he has done this, then the son himself will be made subject to him who
      put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.’ (1 Corinthians 15:28)

      Bible says that Jesus grew in wisdom & learning

      But God is All Wise & does not need to learn: Jesus grew in wisdom, but God
      is all wise ‘Great is our Lord and abundant in strength; His understanding is
      infinite.’

      (Psalms 147:5)

      ‘And Jesus increased in wisdom.’ (Luke 2:52)

      God does not need to learn, but Jesus learned: ‘Although

      he was a son, he learned obedience’ (Heb. 5:8)

      Jesus had limited knowledge, but god’s knowledge is

      infinite. Since Jesus did not know, he was not all-knowing, and therefore, he
      cannot be the God whose knowledge is all-encompassing.

      ‘No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the
      son, but only the Father.’ (Mark 13:32)

      Bible says that Jesus was tempted, but God cannot be tempted

      ’tempted in every way – just as we are’ (Heb. 4:15)

      ‘for God cannot be tempted by evil’ (James 1:13)

      Since God can not be tempted, but Jesus was, therefore, Jesus was not God.

      Bible says that Jesus’ teachings were from God, not from himself

      ‘So Jesus answered them and said, ‘My teaching is not mine, but His who sent
      me.’ (John 7:16)

      Jesus could not have said this if he were God because the doctrine would have
      been his.

      Bible says that Jesus died, but God cannot die

      The Bible teaches that Jesus died. God cannot die. Romans 1:23 and other verses
      say that God is immortal. Immortal means, ‘not subject to death.’ This term

      applies only to God.

      Bible says that Jesus lived because of God

      ‘I live because of the Father.’ (John 6:57)

      Jesus cannot be God because he depended on God for his own existence.

      Bible says that Jesus’ powers were given to him

      ‘All power is given unto me.’ (Matt 28:18)

      God is all-powerful, no one gives God His powers, otherwise He would not be God
      because He would be weak. Therefore, Jesus could not be God.

      Bible says that Jesus was taught & commanded by God

      ‘As my Father hath taught me, I speak these things,’ (John 8:28)

      ‘The Father, who sent me, he gave me a commandment.’ (John 12:49)

      ‘I have kept my Father’s commandments.’ (John 15:10)

      No one can teach God, otherwise God cannot be All-Knowing and would owe His
      teacher. Since Jesus was taught and commanded by God, Jesus cannot be God
      himself. The teacher and the student, the commander and the commanded are not
      one.

      Bible says that God made Jesus ‘Lord’!

      ‘God has made this Jesus both Lord and Christ.’ (Acts 2:36)

      ‘Lord’ is used in many ways in the Bible, and others beside God and Jesus are
      called ‘Lord.’ For example:

      1) property owners (Matt. 20:8)

      2) heads of households (Mark 13:35)

      3) slave owners (Matt. 10:24)

      4) husbands (1 Pet. 3:6)

      5) a son called his father Lord (Matt. 21:30)

      6) the Roman Emperor was called Lord (Acts 25:26)

      7) Roman authorities were called Lord (Matt. 27:63)

      ‘Lord’ is not the same as ‘God.’ ‘Lord’ (the Greek word

      is kurios) is a masculine title of respect and nobility used many times in the
      Bible. If Jesus was God, then for the Bible to say he was ‘made’ Lord would
      make no sense.

      Bible says that Jesus was lower than angels

      ‘But we do see him who was made for a little while lower than the angels,
      namely, Jesus.’ (Hebrews 2:9)

      God, the Creator of angels, can not be lower than His own creation, but Jesus
      was. Therefore, Jesus was not God.

      Bible says that Jesus called the Father ‘my God’

      ‘My God, My God, why have You forsaken me?’ (Matt. 27:46)

      ‘I ascend to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.’ (John 20:17)

      ‘the temple of my God the name of my God the city of my

      God comes down out of heaven from my God.’ (Rev. 3:12)

      Jesus did not think of himself as God, instead Jesus’ God is the same as ours.

      Bible says that God cannot be seen

      But Jesus was seen by others ‘no man has seen God at any time.’ (John 1:18)

      Bible says twice that Jesus was accused of being God

      But he denied it: According to the Bible, on only two instances the Jews
      opposed Jesus on the basis that he pretended to be God or equal with God. Had
      Jesus, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, claimed to be God, he is
      likely to have been opposed on this basis more frequently.

      Because in these two instances, when charged, in the one case, with making
      himself God, and in the other, with making himself equal with God, he denied
      the charges. In reply to the charge of being an equal with God, he says

      immediately:

      ‘The son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the

      Father do’; and directly after ‘I can of mine own self do nothing.’ (John 5:19,
      30)

      In answer to the charge of making himself God, he appeals to the Jews in
      substance thus: Your own Scriptures call Moses a god, and your magistrates

      gods; I am surely not inferior to them, yet I did not call myself

      God, but only the ‘son’ of God (John 10:34-36).

      This is unlikely to have been Jesus’ actual response.

      Hastings in ‘The Dictionary of the Bible’ says, ‘Whether Jesus used it of
      himself is doubtful.’ Grolier’s encyclopedia, under the heading ‘Jesus Christ,’

      says, ‘it is uncertain whether the Father/Son language (Mark 18:32; Matt.
      11:25-27par.; John passim) goes back to Jesus himself.’ A University of Richmond
      professor, Dr. Robert Alley, after considerable research into newly found
      ancient documents concludes that:

      ‘The (Biblical) passages where Jesus talks about the Son

      of God are later additions. what the church said about him. Such a claim of
      deity for himself would not have been consistent with his entire lifestyle as
      we can reconstruct. For the first three decades after Jesus’ death

      Christianity continued as a sect within Judaism. The first three decades of the
      existence of the church were within the synagogue. That would have been beyond
      belief if they (the followers) had boldly proclaimed the deity of Jesus.’

      Assuming Jesus did say that he was ‘son’ of God.

      What did it mean? We first need to know the language of his people, the
      language of the Jews to whom he was speaking.

      May God Bless You and Give You Guidance….Worship only one Almighty God
      without partners…follow your Greatest Commandment…

  • Jd

    The fact that you defend the worthless and beyond corrupt fraud agency known as the IRS makes me loose all hope for this nation

  • LISA

    Wonderful!!! Excellent job standing up for heathens everywhere and showing up the religious for the hypocrites they are!

  • Caleb

    I think this is terrible. But it’s good to see the punishments added. You people will have no excuse on Judgement Day.

  • God Love You!

    Mat 5:44
    “But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,
    Mat 5:45
    “that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
    Mat 5:46
    “For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
    Mat 5:47
    “And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so?
    Mat 5:48
    “Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

  • Common Sense

    So 2 questions from a neutral party: If the ten commandments left out the part about any specific reference to God (so 9 commandments) would athiests be okay with everything written? like murder and stealing being wron ect.
    Also, shouldn’t the outside of the courthouse now include a monument for every religious sect or non-religious standing in America if we are truly being fair? Seems to me the only thing that was accomplished from the atheist perspective on things is that a “religion” and “non-religious idealogy” are oppressing everyone else.
    Congrats on your park bench. Churches congrats on building wells in Africa, providing food, clothes, for homeless, providing adoption assistance for orphans in third world countries, pulling women and children out of sex trafficing rings and getting nothing but criticism in return. Coming from someone who is trying to understand both sides fully, I guess I don’t understand why a park bench represents a great stride.

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  • GodIsReal

    if you don’t like it don’t look at it.
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  • No God Cowboy

    Congratulations Florida godless citizens! I lived and plied my trade in the luxury yacht business in Fort Lauderdale from 1993 to 2003 when living in the middle of 7-million SE Floridians finally became overwhelming and my bride and I escaped to rural Texas about 40-miles NNW of Fort Worth.

    While in Fort Lauderdale I volunteered at the James Randi Education Foundation and became good friends with the “Amazing One” and I’m certain he is most proud of the, dare I call it “miraculous” atheist addition to Broward County, and I can’t imagine a more fitting place to counter the 10 Suggestions BS and in a bold manner. Wish I could have been there, but I return for some yacht project on occasion and I’ll be proud, eager and pleased to sit on it.

  • disqus_MNAMtCt6hW

    “The Fool has said in his heart ‘There is no God’.”. Enough said.

  • alaanile

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