Atheist Billboards Declare Prayer, Bibles Not Helping Disaster Victims

Cranford, NJ—American Atheists launched six billboards on Monday in central New Jersey attacking the non-helpful responses by some religions to recent natural disasters. These responses have included praying for the victims and sending bibles and rosaries instead of requested relief supplies that can save lives.

While at least $300 million has been pledged by nations around the world to help survivors of Super Typhoon Haiyan, the Catholic Bishop Conference of the Philippines, a billion-dollar non-government organization, has responded to the disaster by sending 1,000 bibles and 12,000 rosaries to survivors, according to CBS News. Additionally, the Pope tweeted for Catholics to pray for the typhoon victims. His message was retweeted 30,000 times.

“Imagine if the Pope had asked for people to send money to victims or to send needed supplies. How much more useful would that have been to the people of the Philippines? This is insulting,” said American Atheists President David Silverman. “Over 5,500 people have died, so Pope Francis leads people in prayer, and they send bibles and rosaries. This is repugnant; natural disasters should not be viewed as opportunities for proselytization.” Silverman continued, “Religion is not charity. It’s business masquerading as charity, and it needs to be recognized as such.”

The billboards encourage people to visit atheists.org/relief where they are directed to three secular organizations that have campaigns to assist victims of the typhoon and the recent Midwest tornados. “These organizations provide actual services to people who need them,” said Dave Muscato, Public Relations Director, “and they are our best way to help those affected. Prayer is cheap, quick, and easy, but it accomplishes nothing. Real people are really suffering; they need real help.”

The billboards are located in New Jersey along I-80, I-95, and I-78, and are expected to reach half a million commuters daily. For exact locations of the designs, see http://atheists.org/file/nj-relief-billboards.pdf.

Images of the billboards are below. American Atheists grants permission to all press to reprint & distribute these images provided they are not cropped or modified in any way. Contact Public Relations Director Dave Muscato at (908) 276-7300 x7 with questions.

Religion

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Bibles

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Prayer

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Edited 3:47 PM on Monday, November 25 to add:

American Atheists had an opportunity to advertise a message the week of Thanksgiving on six billboards in New Jersey at no cost to the organization or its donors. We chose to focus these billboards on the issue of disaster relief and some religious groups exploiting tragedy instead of helping victims.

We are not an aid organization and, unlike some churches, we don’t pretend to be one. However, we can use our megaphone to raise awareness about the uselessness of prayer and other religious items for “disaster relief.” Instead, we direct our web site visitors to other secular organizations that offer real support to the real victims of tragedy.

Edited 4:47 PM on Monday, November 25 to add:

The  press release as written originally indicated that the billboards directed people to atheists.org/relief, while the billboard images shown read, “Learn more at atheists.org”. We apologize for the mismatch. Being that character and word count on billboards is extremely limited and brevity is a top priority, the billboards do in fact direct people to atheists.org, and thereafter encourage visitors to go to American Atheists’s Relief page at atheists.org/relief: There is a large banner on the front page of that site, replacing the usual rotating banners about our lawsuits, upcoming convention, and other activities.

  • Bubba

    Love it!

  • rxcjr

    This is great! How could we possibly get something like this down here in San Antonio, Texas?

    • Tiny Tim

      Billboards are not free. They could have sent that money to the victims.

      How much money…exactly…has American Atheists donated in this case to the disaster relief funds?

      • Manny Borges

        Read the article. The billboard was at no cost.

        • SuperLogic

          Well actually, what it says is no cost to the organization or it’s donors, it doesn’t actually say free. My guess is that someone donated the money for the advertising, which could have gone for relief instead.

          • Morten

            So instead of raising awareness and use a small sum to help collect a larger sum, they should just have send the small sum of money? Is this your argument?

          • SuperLogic

            Well, that’s not at all what I said. However, since you bring that up, I noticed to date this National atheist organization raised a whopping $61,000. Probably little more than what the billboards cost. Gee, our one local church raised many times that. Carry on….

          • Brad Talk

            They’re just angry that no one listens to them. While churches and people of faith are amassing money and materials to relieve the pain and suffering of typhoon victims IN ADDITION to prayers and religious aid, the atheists are trying to make noise and proselytize their own religious message in the wake of this horrible disaster. Go figure.

          • Serge Rivest

            Brad you so full of it. Your dogma kill more peoples then any other religion.

          • http://www.poetrypoem.com/musicman Tnmusicman

            Yes, I LOVE how Silverman pointed out that national disasters was NOT the time for proselytization YET what does EVERY atheist billboard do ( including the ones that focused on national disasters ) ?? That’s right! They put their organization website on them! David Silverman is by far the number one atheist that gives the impression his “organization” is a much needed entity without which America would not survive!!
            I tend to agree with the ” they are just angry no one listens to them” theory because it seems to be true.

          • Serge Rivest

            And the religion have bilbaord too, plus those expensive museum they built for praying, use this money to save life. Christian spend more $$$ in AD than any religion, give me a break.

          • SuperLogic

            How about you clean up your own backyard and worry about your own charity, without trying to tell others what they should or shouldn’t do!

          • Deanjay1961

            Theists have put up about a million times more billboards than atheist groups have without their charitableness being questioned. I wonder why that is?

          • SuperLogic

            The reason it is now questioned is because the ATHEISTS have made it an issue, that’s why. Seems theists are not allowed to give away Bibles along with the millions if not billions of dollars they do of charity work every year.

          • Deanjay1961

            They’re allowed to do whatever they want within the law. They’re entitled to do whatever they want within the law without anyone commenting on it or drawing attention to it. In this particular case where time was of the essence, food and water and medical care should have taken precedence over beads and books. You may disagree, but some people have a different perspective on what’s most urgent in such situations.

          • SuperLogic

            YOU are the one that was questioning why that is, and the ATHEIST organization was questioning what the church was doing, now you are saying that they can do whatever they like, yeah, and so can the church. You are contradicting yourself! And in case you haven’t figured it out, you can do both at the same time. If I heard correctly, it was something like 1000 Bibles. And to SOME people that is important as well. You may disagree, but to some people that’s important too. If you don’t want to give Bibles, fine…. but these organizations ALSO do a million times more than the piddly $120,000 (according to you). So maybe you should worry about your own backyard first before you criticize others! Sheeesh, seriously, an organization that gives $120,000 criticizing organizations that give 10’s of millions…. REALLY???

          • Deanjay1961

            My apologies, I left the word ‘not’ out of my second sentence, reversing my intended meaning. I have repaired, and regret any confusion caused by my mistake.

          • SuperLogic

            My argument still stands. Yes, others can comment, draw attention to, and criticize, but then they should expect criticism back. Which in this case is that if you are criticizing handing out Bibles along with 10’s of millions in aide, then you better be prepared to accept criticism of the 10’s of thousands spent on suspect advertising, and the meager by comparison aide that this organization is providing.

            “4”Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ and behold, the log is in your own eye? 5″You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.”

          • Deanjay1961

            Sure we get criticism back. Then we get to argue about whether the crticism is justified, and so on. You mock us not turning down free advertising, we point out Christians spend thousands of times more on advertising than we do (the log in your eye), and it goes back and forth. Everyone expresses their views until they get tired of it. Readers may be enlightened by the discussion.

          • http://www.poetrypoem.com/musicman Tnmusicman

            Ohhhh no!!! We can’t have THAT now can we??!!? Bible are just…….nooooo, let’s not do that!!!

          • pastrami

            Who says that’s never been questioned? You?
            Wrong.

          • Deanjay1961

            I didn’t use the word ‘never’, it was a generalization. There’s always some fool too stupid not to understand that there’s not a conflict between being charitable and promoting your views. Although it seems to come up every single time an atheist puts up a billboard or it becomes publically known that anything was done with a dime in his or her pocket but give it to charity, I don’t doubt that occasionally an atheist who wants to make the same dumb point in reverse turns up.

          • Serge Rivest

            All the money christinaty give is to build museum.

          • SuperLogic

            Well actually, most of it is used to help people, unlike Atheism which hardly donates anything to charity.

          • Serge Rivest

            How do you know we don’t
            give, we do we are just quiet about it. WE give from are heart and expect nothing
            in return. You expect to bring them into your cult. HA

          • Jake

            I think you’re misunderstanding something. ‘atheism’ is NOT a religious organization, nor is it a seperate physical entity like the Vatican, it is incapable of donating anything quite simply because it is merely a lack of belief in a god or gods. Also, the Vatican has untold mountains of wealth, and all they could muster was 150,000? Organized religion is a business, they take donations from the faithful masses, and spend the money on preist and preacher wages, food, and fancy robes, so that they can talk for an hour and collect more donations.

      • 2012 and all that

        Tiny Tim – if you read the article you will see they have sent far more than Pope Francis

        • jimbo

          Read the article didn’t see any amount other than asking others to donate, checked and Pope Francis donated 150,000.00. Billboard were not free as they complained about character cost for wording.

          • godisafairytale

            Jimbo, where exactly does it mention the character cost for wording? Point out the exact line.

          • Beau Severson

            The complaint was about limited space needed for character size on the billboards. Not on any cost related to such. The article says right off the top that the space was at no cost to them.

        • SuperLogic

          Actually, they raised $61,000 to date, compared to $150,000 for the Vatican. (Which does not include all the world wide Catholic churches donations)

          • Serge Rivest

            Where do you pick your fact, how many of us give right and left and do not pick up receipt for tax break.

          • SuperLogic

            That has nothing to do with receipts for tax breaks. That is the amount their own web site reported at the time.

      • Donovan W Baker

        You tell others about what they know and you can’t even read the article before making yourself look like an idiot. You need to help yourself and leave this to the grown ups.

      • Zorro77

        Read the article again stupid. It said at no cost

      • Serge Rivest

        More then you think, we dont speak about it we do it, with no reward.

  • XaurreauX Pont DeLac

    Wow! Just wow!

  • A respectful atheist

    Wow! I love how you did not at all decide to use this tragedy as an opportunity to proselytize, by spending thousands of dollars on billboards which focus entirely on disparaging spirituality rather than mentioning, you know, the actual charities people should donate to!

    Incidentally, the Vatican has donated $150k to aid organizations. That’s not all going to Bibles – or, at the very least, those Bibles cost no more than your billboards.

    • crimsonking

      These billboards aren’t promoting atheism as much as they are promoting the idea that prayer doesn’t help. Likewise with Bibles and rosaries. If you want to help, then send money or supplies to where they need to go. It’s great that the Vatican donated and I don’t see any criticism of that here, because it is real help. Prayer can only ever help the prayer, and that rarely.

    • disrespectfulantitheist

      Well the Vatican should, it’s their crappy god who caused this debacle in the first place. Now can we stop with the tired emo shit, donate or shut up cause you completely missed the point.

      • Tiny Tim

        I donated.

        Did you?

        I can tell you didn’t.

        • crimsonking

          Then why are you arguing? If you truly believed your rhetoric, wouldn’t prayer have been better? If you’re also donating real stuff then you must recognize that silly books, beads, and letters to Santa don’t do anything substantive.

        • Danielle

          Hi Tiny Tim,
          i fully support your stand but you know you don’t have to argue with these people. They are destined to where they are going, a place prepared for them. Hell is waiting for them now. Our living God is so gracious that He also
          allowed them to enjoy the blessings we His people receive from Him, like: the air we breathe; the water we drink; the food we eat; and, even the comfort of life. After all, they will surely get what they deserve when the Day of
          Judgment comes. They don’t belong to us, they belong to the world! God bless you!

          • Morality

            “even the comfort of life”

            Writing that in the aftermath of the typhoon is more than misplaced.

          • KD

            Danielle. After reading all of this madness by chance. You could not have said it any better!!! Thank you. There is never a need to argue something that WE know is evident.

          • Cthulhu21

            You have no basis for that. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

          • godisafairytale

            What if you’re wrong? What if we both turn into a pile of worm shit underground when we die? Whew! I just ate your food and drank your water and I didn’t have to put up with all that bullshit wishing and praying and wasting time in churches and feeling crappy about all the fun I had!

          • Louise Haig

            And threatening me with a non existent place is just pointless and silly, a bit like religion….

          • A Theist Smarter Than You

            I don’t know what wrathful demon god you worship. but my unbiased, unprejudiced, intellectual, rational, wise, and understanding God will not condemn someone to eternal punishment for not knowing what they couldn’t possibly have known.

      • jimbo

        So do you believe in God? even if you deem him crappy.

      • SmartyPants

        God doesn’t cause natural disasters. God doesn’t kill people. You aren’t that much smarter than the religious people who believe that He does if you agree with that view

    • Donovan W Baker

      By the way, you really did miss the point. Bibles are not helping people. At least this message can resonate to get more people to send money or volunteer. Those bible will do nothing like that. Oh and the billboard use was free. Thanks for playing and proving the point.

      • Tiny Tim

        The Bibles are not helping some people.

        Others derive great comfort from them.

        Quit pretending to know what you don’t know.

        • Tjaart Blignaut

          Great comfort, yes! I guess they make lovely meals, medicines and blankets.

          • Pink Unicorn

            Yep. Cuz you know after I lost everything but the clothes on my back nothing feels up my stomach, provides shelter over my head, or keeps me warm like a bible and rosary.

        • crimsonking

          I find that I can only derive comfort from something when my basic needs are met. If I’m hungry, cold, sick, and homeless, I don’t need a book.

        • Sara Young

          Only weak brainwashed people get comfort from fairy tales they think are real.

        • Donovan W Baker

          You really should know what you are talking about before questioning others. I was a believer and know most believers have never even read that horror story. I know that “great comfort” is not needed as much as food, shelter, and clothing. That book is a luxury item for those who have the necessities of life already. If you had any compassion for your fellow humans in need, you would KNOW that. Your beliefs, no matter what they are, can’t change this fact.

        • Louise Haig

          Tim if you were a victim of this disaster, and you knew aid was on it’s way. You had no food, water, clothes or shelter. Would your prefer to receive a bible or a food hamper?

    • Pink Unicorn

      Actually according to American Atheist’s site the billboards did not cost the organization or its donors. So the message was posted without cost which means that’s more money they can contribute to the cause.

      Additionally the Vatican donated $150k out of the billions that they take in and people are supposed to be thankful? Like David Silverman said can you imagine what would have happened if the Pope had just gone on the record and asked people to help, send money, send supplies, do something that actually is going to make a difference….

      • Tiny Tim

        That’s nonsense. The billboards were not free, so someone paid.

        • Pink Unicorn

          I didn’t say the billboards were free or that someone didn’t pay for them. If you re-read the first sentence you’ll see that they did not cost the Organization or its donors anything. Doesn’t mean it was free, it means that the thousands of dollars that “A respectful Atheist” was claiming they paid for them wasn’t really the case. Someone could have paid for everything and donated them to the organization.

          • SuperLogic

            That being the case, the money that someone donated to the billboards could have been much better used for relief aide. The pot calling the kettle black.

      • SuperLogic

        You are comparing apples to oranges. While the entire Catholic Church may take in millions or billions, the Vatican itself does not see all of that. That is spread through the entire organization. I am sure the Catholic Church as a whole as donated FAR MORE than the $150,000 which is what the Vatican itself apparently donated.

      • Susan Langlo Killian

        Where do you get your information?

      • Susan Langlo Killian

        Please provide your references for this

      • Susan Langlo Killian

        This is not true. I would appreciate some one here discussing the actual fact. The truth was CRS was the first there… the truth is Catholics and the Church have poured billions into helping already… where did you get your statistics from?

        • Susan Langlo Killian

          “I am sure the Bishops conference did what is said above… this would be spiritual comfort for a predominantly Catholic country but here’s the problem with the rest of what was said…. Just because Atheists see no point in it doesn’t mean that the filipino people did not. Then you go on make it appear that that was all that was done. This is dishonest of you. I will give you a few facts with references. CRS was the first on the scene with resources…why? because the Church was already there. The Church’s main mission is to care for the poor…anywhere there are poor there are Catholics feeding, clothing and sheltering the poor already… http://crs.org/typhoon-haiyan/. Also see
          http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2002-04-14/table-the-u-dot-s-dot-catholic-church-how-it-works

          The Catholic Church is the largest charitable organization in the world. It feeds, clothes, heals, and educates more poor people than all others combined. Hopefully you’ll read the links and hopefully you will correct your statements… ”

          Surely if you mean what you say about Truth, intelligence and reason you can explain why you are not presenting the actual facts…. If you are right why not answer the hard questions… why pretend to be so righteous and then do exactly what you accuse the others of… believing what you want to… inquisitive, REASONABLE and INTELLIGENT minds would love to know why you are being dishonest :)

    • X-Christian

      If even 50 people read these billboards
      and decide to stop their wasteful praying
      and to send a few hundred dollars instead
      the world will be better off !

      • SuperLogic

        You can do both you know?? It’s not either or!

        • X-Christian

          Every moment of prayer is a waste.

          • SuperLogic

            Well, that’s your opinion…

          • X-Christian

            I wish prayer would make a difference but the evidence says it doesn’t.
            This isn’t a matter of opinion.

          • SuperLogic

            If all prayers were answered the way we wanted, even the demons would pray.

          • X-Christian

            BUT DEMONS DO PRAY! Ever heard of Hitler, the most famous catholic outside of the Vatican? His prayers almost came true – which only proves that the whole thing is a man-made charade.

            Jesus makes these promises in the Bible. Be GLAD they are NOT REAL and that
            THEY DO NOT WORK:

            “And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified….” (John 14:13)

            “And whatever you ask in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith.” (Matthew 21:2)

            “And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer,
            believing, ye shall receive.” (Matthew 21:22)

            “If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.”
            (John 15:7)

            “Therefore I say unto you, what things so ever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have
            them.” (Mark 11:24)

            “Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.” (John
            16:24)

          • SuperLogic

            Hey, well I can see you’ve done at least a bit of research (or at least know how to copy and paste, lol) I don’t have the time to respond to everything at the moment, but right away in your first line you immediately show that your comment is flawed. Hitler may have grown up in a Catholic home, but he didn’t attend church since he was 13. Hmmm… quite the Catholic! :oP If you really more in depth research, you would realize how little religion or belief meant to him. Try checking out his book “Mein Kampf” where he reveals what he’s actually thinking and not the face he puts on for the public. I went to Germany this summer and visited his bunkers and death camps and the museums about him and the Nazi party, and you are completely off the mark to try to claim he was a Catholic!

          • X-Christian

            In my day Mein Kampf was read along with the Helen Keller biographies in High School. That isn’t done any more – but you couldn’t have Hitler without Christianity.

            Hitler was not only Catholic – he was the most normal kind of catholic. He had his own interpretation of scripture which only augmented all the validation for hatred of Jews that anyone could ever want. Jews killed Jesus – that’s all Hitler needed to know. 70% of the his SS were practicing Catholics.

            Hitler’s first treaty was with the Catholic church in either 1932 or 33 – look it up yourself. He promised the Pope that the churches would all be welcome in the Third Reich and in return they must celebrate his birthday every year with the ringing of bells and vocal support of the nazis – AND THE CHURCHES OBLIGED EVEN DURING THE WAR!

            On March 23, 1933 Hitler made a speech, in the course of which he reaffirmed Christianity as the “unshakeable foundation of the moral and ethical life of our people”. On March 24, 1933, Hitler was
            granted dictatorial powers by parliament through the Enabling Act, with the Catholic Center Party headed by Prelate Ludwig Kaas casting the deciding votes
            in favor. The Church carried out Nazi laws (some of which are still in place to this day). The Church was the first to surrender to Nazis.

            RELIGION GIVES PEOPLE THE RIGHT AND THE REASON TO MURDER! WHEN WILL YOU CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND?

            “About heretics there are two things to say. Their sin deserves banishment not only
            from the church by excommunication but also from the world by DEATH.”
            – St. Thomas Aquinas

            HORRORS ARE NOT DONE IN THE NAME OF RELIGION.
            THEY ARE DONE *AT THE DIRECTION* OF RELIGION.

          • SuperLogic

            You are VERY selective in your evidence. As I said before, you are confusing the public face Hitler put on, with what he really believed. As an example, he made a deal with the Catholic church as you say, which is what he did to get their much needed support, but then you ignore the fact that he later took away their powers, and the Catholic church and Hitler basically became enemies, with the Catholic church trying to overthrow him.

            And you claim “Religion gives people the right and the reason to murder? When will you Christians understand?” This is absurd! First of all, not all religions are the same, which is what you are trying to claim. Secondly, atheism as a world view has killed far more in just the last century in opposition to religion, than Christianity has in it’s entire history! So your statement of “Horrors are not done in the name of religion. They are done at the direction of religion” would actually hold far more true for atheism than for Christianity. You really like to pick and chose your facts, and conveniently ignore the real facts which completely contradict your absurd claims!

          • X-Christian

            Hitler was Catholic, his Nazis were all Catholics and Christian and they insisted on the superiority of Hitler’s personal Aryan Nation of the Super Race which was a Christian Uber-humanity. “Gott Mit Uns” (God with Us) was on every Nazi’s belt buckle.
            This is not Atheism!

            Emperor Hirohito was worshipped as a God on earth with a Kamikaze army dying for ‘eternal glory’ – this is not Atheism!

            Stalin was worshipped as a God with miracles by his right hand man the Agricultural minister Lysenko with giant fruits and vegetables – THIS IS NOT Atheism!

            North Korea (like them) worships the dear leader as a God. – again, NOT atheism!
            None of this is secular.

            Franco’s Spain? CATHOLIC.
            Rwanda genocide? CATHOLIC.
            Bosnian War? CATHOLIC.

            Let’s not play the body-count game! Why would there be a body count for religion at all?

            I make no claims about God. He may or may not exist.

            Show me a culture built on the tenets of Atheists: Thomas Paine, Mark Twain, Voltaire, Benjamin Franklin and Gene Roddenberry and let’s see if that society falls into capriciousness, evil and genocide and maybe then you’ll have a fair comparison.

            Until then the only thing to worship is the United States Constitution and its Godlessness!

          • X-Christian

            Like most Atheists, I was a Christian for decades – one whose love of Jesus and study of Jesus led me not toward Christianity but to the shocking and outrageous discovery that the whole of religion is based on the worst sorts of dishonest ‘knowledge’.
            God very likely does not exist. I do NOT claim that God is not real. I only react to the claim that he does.
            And until further evidence or demonstration is shown, I cannot believe in a god of any kind any more.

    • Nick Ellis

      $150,000! Wow! As much as that!? The British government is donating £53 million and the British public has donated a similar amount

      • crimsonking

        Well its not like the Vatican is rich. Wait, that doesn’t sound right.

    • Sara Young

      The billboards were at NO COST. Which it clearly states IN THE ARTICLE. Which also clearly states that the site referenced on the billboard has a huge banner across the homepage linking people to the REAL places to donate and actually help people. Moron.

      • SuperLogic

        Actually, it says they were at “not cost to the organization or it’s donors”, it doesn’t say they were free. More than likely some person gave it as a donation, which could have been better used as aid. Pot calling the kettle black.

        • Deanjay1961

          So because the donor should have spent their money differently, the organization should not have taken advantage of the billboard space given to them freely?
          And it looks like the total donations collected by the organizations the signs direct readers to is over $120,000 now.

          • SuperLogic

            Really?? $120,000 for a National organization?? Wow, you atheists are a generous bunch, aren’t you?? My LOCAL church gave several times that!

            P.S. Maybe they could have suggested the donor of the ad space give it to charity instead??

          • Deanjay1961

            So your local church is also more generous than the Vatican was, good for them. We atheists are 5% of the US population, we’d have to give 20 times more per person to match the 95% non-atheist majority.

    • adhoc

      It is understandable that the Vatican only donated $150k. They need to save their cash to settle with the victims of pedophile clergy, right?

      • godisafairytale

        Hahahaha! Exactly.
        Shutting up families of toddlers you buttfucked for years costs a lot!

    • Beau Severson

      You know the billboards were provided at no cost, right? Did you read the article?

  • Matt Kovach

    now these I like

  • darwintyson

    To respectful atheist….did you even read the post? You know the part where it says the link directs folks to organizations that are collecting money to help the victims. Or were you just to busy thinking how smart you think you are and then drop an ignorant comment. And as a point of reference, organized religion should be disparaged but I don’t think that was necessarily the direct point of these billboards.

    • crimsonking

      Exactly. Disparaging religion wasn’t the point here. The point was that prayer, Bibles, and beads don’t help.

      • Tiny Tim

        They wouldn’t help you.

        Others did derive help from them.

        Your Atheist Arrogance is Astounding.

        • Manny Borges

          Your self absorption and egotism is astounding Tim.

        • Nick Ellis

          Can you feed yourself with a bible? Does it shelter you from the weather? Sending bibles to a disaster zone displaces actual relief supplies being sent there

          The only thing you can do with it that disaster victims need is use it to start a fire, and there are better things already available for doing that. If you can’t be bothered to help, please just do nothing, that way at least you don’t make yourself look any stupider than you already do.

          If your god exists, then he caused this disaster, in which case sending help of any kind is defying god’s will, so please don’t pretend that you are helping because your god would want you to. He didn’t do this just so you can salve your conscience by advancing your religion, it was a random event in an unplanned universe, get over it and leaving helping the victims to people who care enough to send real help

          Your religious delusion is not only astounding, its actually making the situation worse.

          • Emmfullness

            It provided hope for those in despair for those who follow the Bible’s teachings.

            Also, you don’t get to tell someone what his/her religious beliefs are or how they must fit together. You know nothing about how he perceives God’s Will and it’s not your place to interpret it for him.

          • godisafairytale

            Hope (noun): the feeling of wanting something to happen and thinking that it could happen.
            Kind of like food and water. They’re really hoping for that. Hope alone is useless if you’re dying of starvation and dehydration. Almost 2 million people are homeless. They need food, clean water, shelter, clothing. Not a fucking book of fairy tales.
            How about stop wishing and hoping since that won’t save a man’s life – and actually do something useful? All the emotional comfort in the world isn’t worth shit to a widow and her dead baby.

          • Michael Lloyd

            Missing the point, mate, If they are already religious, then the giving of a bible(lower case ‘B’ intentional) is probably not going to help them realise something they didn’t already know. What these bibles are effectively are doing is providing solace to those in desperate straits . In other words, capitalising on misery. Something I would hate McDonalds for doing. Or Shell Oil. Or Nike. But it seems, for you, it’s okay for your God to do it. That’s why we’re atheists – because your view of the world is hideous.

        • crimsonking

          What help exactly did they get from Bibles and beads and wishes when what they really need is food, water, shelter, medical help, money for everything, etc.? Prayer only helps the one praying feel good about doing nothing.

        • Serge Rivest

          So is your Christianity.
          You bully gay peoples or other peoples who believe the opposite of you. Let me
          judge you the way you judge me.

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  • Dennis_Byrne

    Not all religions, including Catholics, are engaging in this. Read this:

    “Catholic Office for Peace and Justice appeals for help for victims of the Philippines Typhoon Haiyan”

    at http://www.chicagonow.com/dennis-byrnes-barbershop/2013/11/catholic-office-for-peace-and-justice-appeals-for-help-for-victims-of-the-philippines-typhoon-haiyan/

    Just saying….

    • crimsonking

      Of course not. Even an atheist won’t claim that a religious person can’t do good things sometimes.

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  • Paul LaClair

    As a fellow atheist, I have to wonder whether AA’s PR people are brain damaged. The obvious response to this billboard is: “Imagine if atheists spent their time and energy helping disaster victims instead of criticizing others for praying for them.” The purpose of a billboard is to win people over to your cause. You can’t do that when the message on the billboard is self-contradictory, leaving completely aside that it attempts to knock down a perceived positive (good wishes in the form of prayer) with a perceived negative (criticism). So here goes AA yet again, pissing off people who might otherwise agree with you. There’s no nice way to say it, this billboard is just plain stupid.

    • joe3eagles

      Imagine if responsible drivers would concentrate on their own driving and stop trying to get drunk drivers off the road. To each his own, right?

    • disrespectfulantitheist

      So everyone should just pretend prayer works because that’s a positive to some folks? Um, that’s a remarkably stupid statement for an atheist. Remember we want people to actually help by pointing out a way to actually help people. Their belief that somehow it’ll all be dandy if they just pray hard enough to their magical sky king is the problem here, not the billboards.

      • Paul LaClair

        Unbelievable. Could you ever admit that AA could be wrong about anything? The point is that AA set a standard for the Pope to live by, then didn’t live by it: “don’t waste your time praying for disaster victims, help them” could as easily be “if you’re so worried about disaster victims, help them yourself.” It’s about hypocrisy, which the average person will spot in a heartbeat. AA could make all your points, but by making them in this context it makes itself out to be a joke. If you’re going to criticize what I wrote, then criticize what I wrote, not a distortion of it.

        • crimsonking

          This is your reaction. Are you claiming to speak for other atheists, or even more ridiculous, the religious? People need to learn that these religious beliefs are bullshit and ultimately cause harm. The more people believe in the power of prayer, the less they will be inclined to offer real help, and we have an example of this right here. If religious groups are going to send books and beads after a typhoon, then they should be called out for their stupidity, not lauded for their good wishes.

    • Tjaart Blignaut

      The people who believe in prayer don’t just think they are good wishes, they think a personal god will attend to the problem. I think it is a worthwhile cause to point out that this is certainly not the case and that nobody should feel good about themselves just for praying for victims.

    • Wiggles

      You moderate apologists sicken me. You are the enablers of the lunatic religious nutjobs.

    • Beau Severson

      Considering the billboards were of no cost, and they are an encouragement for people to donate the real thing needed for disaster relief, money, I don’t get how you think this is stupid, or why people would think atheists should better spend their time elsewhere.

      The statements are simple, true, and to the point. These people don’t need bibles, they need help. Money, food, shelter. It is as simple as that. I think you have some sort of a gripe against AA, I don’t get why else you would oppose this.

      • AlanMHughes

        Some would correctly oppose it because “Natural disasters should not be viewed as opportunities for proselytization.”

    • LaughingOutLoud

      It’s funny…no HILARIOUS, that hate groups such as AA think they will have any lasting (good) influence. Sure, you guys make billboards will witty remarks included in your hate propoganda, but so did the German Nazi party (http://www.nazi-lauck-nsdapao.com/neo-nazi-party-propaganda.htm)(I just noticed, one of those pictures was copied and used in an antireligious meme! You guys are more alike than I thought). Didn’t they believe that the people they opposed were a cancer to society as well? In short, AA is just a modern version of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Militant_Atheists (They had witty antireligious posters too.)

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  • Adam Eriksson

    I am both happy and sad about this.
    It’s a great bilboard and I agree 100%.
    I’m sad that stuff like this is needed though.

  • Absinthekitty

    Hahahahahhahahahhahahahaha

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  • Emmfullness

    Except Pope Francis DID call the people to help AND the Catholic Relief Services DID respond. That the Catholic Church also provided people with tokens of HOPE is nothing to get crappy about. Do your research before spreading slander.
    http://crs.org/typhoon-haiyan/
    Quote from pope asking for aid at the bottom of the page. And may he be BLESSED for asking for prayers – even if you don’t believe in spiritual powers the mere fact that clearly over 30,000 people responded to the request is 30,000 people who probably spent time thinking about and sympathizing with those people and I can almost guarantee at least one of them in that time responded with a donation who might not have otherwise.

  • Thomas Thompson

    I don’t understand why people feel the need to be so critical, why not just help, why do you need to criticize someone else’s way of helping and boast about your own way of helping at the same time, this is not promoting love, peace or coexistence.

    • Sara Young

      Because if you can get those people to open their eyes and realise their prayers, and sending books isn’t helping. Then they can spend that extra time and money actually helping.. Therefore over doubling the help these people get.

      • Guest

        so, if you can get people to see that your way of doing things is best then the world will be a better place?

        • Cthulhu21

          It’s a step in the right direction yes.

  • Timothy Yakich

    Atheists don’t believe in God. O.K. Atheists believe that we die and that’s it. O.K. Atheists don’t believe that we are accountable to God. O.K. Atheists believe in evolution. O.K. Questions : (1) what makes what you are doing “right”? I mean, whether we help someone who is hurting or not, why, in the long run, after we are dead and gone, does it matter, and who are you to tell me that it does? If you want to help them, go right ahead, but what does it matter, really? Isn’t evolution the survival of the fittest? Shouldn’t you be out there helping the strong get stronger and killing of the weaker of the human race? (2) why do you care what others believe? aren’t you, as atheists, wasting your time worrying and opposing others…aren’t we all simply allowed to do whatever we want? (3) What is the ultimate purpose of opposing God so fervently when in 9 millions years we will, according to you, we (you and us) long gone and forgotten? Here’s the rub : Christians can point to the Bible as the inerrant, infallible Word of God. We believe, in context, what the Bible says, that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior. Now if we are following Jesus according to the Bible, then we aren’t being hypocrites and you should actually find that appealing. Also, we can defend the Bible in these 4 areas: (1) scientifically (http://vananne.com/evolutionvscreation/How%20to%20Know%20the%20Bible%20is%20the%20Word%20of%20God.htm); (2) archeologically; (3) historically; (4) prophetically. What do atheists “hang their hats on”? Atheist sites/protestors are grasping at the wind. They believe that we came from nothing (Big Bang Theory), yet they can’t prove it. They believe that we are the products of happenchance, then they want to say they have “morals” and they try to impose these baseless morals on others, while at the same time not wanting Christians to impose their concrete morals on them. BTW, we don’t impose, we recommend. Atheists don’t want to answer to God, yet they want Christians to answer to them. Atheists are the most thin-skinned, intolerant group of people, other than Muslims, that I ever heard of. Christians should go out and proselytize because we believe that there are true consequences when we die for our beliefs and actions while we are alive. But what reason is there for an Atheist to even start a group? What is the point? Why do they “care”? I’ll tell you why. Deep down you all know that there is a God, and in your denial of Him, you become even more rebellious and you believe that if you increase in numbers that that will bring you some comfort (It won’t and it hasn’t, obviously, because you all are becoming more and more focused on hurting and opposing Christians in all ways possible, and for reasons that atheistically don’t even make sense). We Christians, true followers of Jesus Christ, don’t hate you, no, we want to share the goodness of Jesus Christ and the hope He offers, and we want to do it in a loving, caring, compassionate, passionate way. Personally, I didn’t come to know Jesus until I was 46, and I look back on my life of denial of the one true God and I see His grace and mercy on me. Oh how I would love to see you all come to know the Peace of God.

    • Danielle

      The Lord God is with you Timothy Yakich. I am indeed so blessed by your stand on God’s word! I pray that the Holy Spirit will continue to give you His wisdom, knowledge and strength. Praise the Lord Jesus whose name is above all names…

      • adhoc

        One has to wonder if ye feels the same about Santa Claus? If not, why not?

    • shumphreys

      How do any of us determine what is right and what is wrong? Do we do something just because a book written in the 1st Century tells us what to do or because someone else tells us what is right or wrong? Or do we read what many different books have to tell us, weigh the differing viewpoints, look at a situation from the “others” viewpoint and then decide what is the just, the fair, the honorable course of action?
      For atheists, or at least for some of us, the here and now matters, because we know there is no hereafter. True altruism is about doing what is right NOT because you expect a heavenly reward or to escape a hellish punishment, for praise or for public acclaim, you do what is right because it is the nice, the polite, the honorable, thing to do, because you really do believe that one should not do to others what one doesn’t want done to them! We do what is right because it makes us feel good to do so. Doing what is wrong makes us feel uncomfortable. Sometimes doing what is right makes us feel uncomfortable at the time we do it, but we know that feeling will wear off and the feeling that we did what was right even when it was uncomfortable to do was right.

    • Deanjay1961

      If you can’t think of a reason not to murder your wife in addition to ‘God doesn’t like it’, you have insufficient moral development to understand any other explanations anyway.

  • GrenadeCatcher

    Logic always defeats blind faith

    • NWaff

      If you think all Christians come to Jesus through “blind faith” then you certainly are the blind one.

      • GrenadeCatcher

        What other reason would they come to jesus for? You cant prove anything in your fictitious religion. Nothing in the bible has any foundation for logic or fact.

        • AB

          Coercion, emotional bullying, blackmail and peer pressure?

        • Shumphreys

          Does that mean that what is in the Bible is worthless? The Bible is full of great wisdom for those that will read it thoughtfully and critically.Wise words stand on their own merits, they need no claim of divine authorship. The error made by Christians is not admitting or accepting that the Bible is what it is, the work of men, a mix of great stories and poetry. Nothing more and nothing less. We can all and have all learned from great stories.

          • GrenadeCatcher

            Its one of the greatest works of fiction ever written.

          • Jake

            yea, wise words like: if your child is unruly – stone them, dont save your money, dont wear clothes made of 2 different fabrics… yea the list of wisdom filled pages is astounding

    • Deanjay1961

      If only.

  • Timothy Yakich

    Here is a list of Christian disaster relief organizations :
    http://christianity.about.com/od/practicaltools/tp/disasterrelief.htm

    Jesus said, “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.” So, we Christians love as we have been loved…by God There are eternal consequences for our actions…what purpose do atheists have for doing anything for anybody? What are the consequences, personal responsibilities, for doing “right” or “wrong’? and who exactly has the “right” to determine what is “right” or “wrong”? I’m so confused on why atheists give anyone even the time of day, it just doesn’t make sense to care, and btw, where does “caring” come from and why would it matter in a world of evolution? Do wolves care about weak/injured lambs (other than how they taste)? Do killer whales care about weak/injured seals (other than how they taste)? Atheists can’t answer the basic life questions of a 5 year old, like, “why are we here?”, “what happens to us after we die?”, “Where did we come from?”, “what makes humans so different from the animals here on earth?”, “Where does our conscience come from and what purpose does it serve?”. (Oh, BTW, all of the answers to these questions are found in the Bible, atheists just don’t like the answers, even though they are true.)

    • Morality

      I can write a book as well that contains all the answers, no sweat… Whether the answers would survive the scrutiny of sane minds and a open, honest process of discussion is doubtful.

    • rArwel Fabu

      SPIRIT OF WISDOM is a gift from GOD because of FAITH,and you acquired it.congratulations!Despite of all odds,these might be an instrument to enligthen the world to stick and cling to the WORDS and PROMISES of GOD.We filipinos wholeheartedly believe and put our TRUST,HOPE and LOVE to GOD ALMIGHTY the REDEEMER and SAVIOUR.Remember the story of JOB in the Bible?

    • Deanjay1961

      To someone who can’t think of a reason not to rape children besides ‘God doesn’t like it’, what motivates the nonbeliever to do good will always be a mystery.

  • Timothy Yakich

    Of all the things there are to know in life…ALL the things, everything there is possibly to have absolute knowledge about…how much do you know? What percentage, of any ONE thing, do you THINK you have an ABSOLUTE knowledge? And you’re telling me that you know, THAT YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY 100% CERTAIN, that there is NO omniscient, NO omnipresent, NO omnipotent Creator? Now that’s a leap of faith.
    Psalm 14, verses 1-4:…
    “The FOOL says in his heart, “There is no God.”
    They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds,
    there is none who does good.
    The Lord looks down from heaven on the children of man,
    to see if there are any who understand,
    who seek after God.
    They have all turned aside; together they have become corrupt;
    there is none who does good,
    not even one.
    Have they no knowledge, all the evildoers
    who eat up my people as they eat bread
    and do not call upon the Lord?

  • Timothy Yakich

    Here is the Gospel that saves ALL sinners who believe in Jesus:
    (1) Romans chapter 3, verse 23
    “…for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God”
    (2) Romans chapter 6, verse 23
    “For the WAGES of sin is death, but the FREE GIFT of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
    (3) Romans chapter 5, verse 8
    “…but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, [SINLESS, HOLY] Christ died for us.”
    (4) Romans chapter 10, verses 9 to 13
    “…because, if you CONFESS WITH YOUR MOUTH that Jesus is Lord and BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. For the Scripture says, “EVERYONE who believes in him will not be put to shame.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. For “EVERYONE who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
    This is your only true hope in life here on earth.

  • Timothy Yakich

    Thanksgiving: it’s not WHAT you’re thankful for, it WHO you’re thankful to!! Can anyone produce a turkey? No, God provides them for us to enjoy!! Can anyone make a potato out of nothing? No, God provides them for us to enjoy!! A ”simple” little cranberry? Yep, God provides…how great is our God? Can anyone name anything that they’ve ever come across that they made on their own? I love the term “self-made” millionaire, businessman, athlete, whatever. Like they bore themselves, what a hoot. I’d like to see that one. Question : the information found on DNA. Yeah, were does that come from? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmB4uLANCBo

    • Cthulhu21

      DNA formed from a mix of chemicals under the right conditions. Everything is made from chemical in one form or another.

      • SuperLogic

        Where is the evidence that mixing chemicals together ever produced thought, personality and emotion?? These are not things which chemicals themselves can produce!

        • Cthulhu21

          Our bodies are made of chemicals. :/
          It’s weird to say that our what our minds produce, like or thoughts and feelings, aren’t caused by chemicals or are at least the byproducts of chemicals.

          • SuperLogic

            Yes, our bodies are made of chemicals, yet we have a spirit which are unique to each individual person. Chemicals can alter our moods, however there is something besides chemicals which initially give us those moods, personality, feelings, thoughts, etc, which can not be created by chemicals themselves, only altered. Does dopamine have a mood or emotions??

          • Cthulhu21

            This is a very late reply and I blame this on bad circumstances: no, dopamine itself doesn’t have emotions. Those with the neurotransmitters that produce dopamine do (which would be a majority of the mentally healthy population). Hope this answers your question if you’re still interested.

    • shumphreys

      I am both thankful to who’s and for what’s. BUT I don’t give thanks to imaginary beings but to real ones, the ones that deserve the credit for their own actions, family and friends, the great thinkers both past and present that have enlightened me. I am thankful for the wisdom and dedication of the scientists that are working to unravel DNA and devise ways to use that knowledge to help us. You ask where it came from? BUT unfortunately we can also ask you where did God come from? As you and others claim nothing comes from nothing! Until you can answer where God came from you are stuck with a belief based on fear and hope. I can tell you where God comes from, we create God and the Gods in our own image, not the other way around.

  • THOUGHTS..TRY ONE.

    The billboards are a great idea. I will be joining and donating. The Catholic Church is the wealthiest entity in the world, yet they pay no taxes. Its absurd. Pleas continue to move forward with THOUGHT and reason. The bible quotations listed are wonderful fodder. Thanks, once again, for the entertainment.

  • Edward Nelson

    There is no such thing as a dead atheist !!

    • Cthulhu21

      So you’re saying there aren’t any Athiests who have died? That doesn’t make much sense. :/

  • FilipinoCatholic

    Sorry but my fellow Filipinos need both prayer and help. We also send both to them instead of bashing others.

  • Open to hear.

    These groups have this kind of money to throw away on advertisements on billboards, and try to show that they care for people, when in fact, they are non-caring people who only care about themselves and their beliefs. Why not send that money to the disaster relief organizations and centers so they can purchase the products of relief for the victoms instead of by-passing guaranteed help and following their march of attacking those who believe in God. By being against those who believe in God, and not helping those who may one day save their lives by helping them, they really show their true character of who the serve and their true identity in this world. What a pity… to be so lost and hurting with so much anger inside of them, they truly don’t know what Love is or care to find out. Prove me wrong all you so called atheists… Send money to a disaster relief and post it on the web!

    • Deanjay1961

      Some donor had already given the billboard space free of charge and they used them to direct people to charities that will send aid, while pointing out that what is really needed is substantive help. The bastards!

  • Colin

    Funny how this article fails to mention all the other Christian outreach programs like Samaritan Purse that flew in right away with tons of aide to help.

    • EllenBeth Wachs

      Right and Samaritan’s Purse proselytizes and demands converts in exchange for their charity

      https://www.au.org/church-state/february-2006-church-state/people-events/relief-workers-accused-of-seeking-converts-in

      http://pursestrings.ca/

      • Smith_90125

        Sow’s Purse and other fundy christian “charities” subscribe to the “10/40 window” bullshit, and claim that catholicism and islam are “satanic”. They go to places like Indonesia, Sri Lanka or the Philippines after a disaster, to prey on people at their weakest.

    • Deanjay1961

      Oh Colin, I’m so sorry you had to find out that not everything is always about your particular religion this way. We talked about what other people were doing without throwing a shout out to Samaritan Purse. I hope you can learn to cope.

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  • we all doing what we can

    churches and Christians give more money(real Help)…build hospitals(real Help)..than all these non believers who sit back and criticize. If you don’t believe that’s your option….but do something to help ..or do you not believe in that either? Maybe you do have a god after all…the god of criticism!

  • Mike Irish

    This is fucking stupid. God causes a typhoon which kills 5000+ people who prayed for help and now they need prayer to God after what he caused killing 5000+ people all of whom God was going to kill someday anyway?

    • YsoIgnorant

      God doesn’t cause natural disasters. God doesn’t kill people. You aren’t that much smarter than the religious people who believe in “God’s Wrath” if you agree with that view.

  • Rick

    As a firefighter Paramedic 26 years (retired.) There have been a few times Isaid get me out of this Yeah i asked God to let me be ok. Now you have a little child lifeless on the concrete bad car accident and in your mind don’t Lie You think oh please let her live . Now who did you just ask . Not god you don’t have one right !Case closed I know too many rules.

  • Ihatestupidppl

    So Atheists can have billboards, but Christians can’t because Atheists say Christian displays offend them. Wow. Atheists say they live by morals and values – not God. What is moral about being a hypocrite? What is moral about attacking, criticizing and making fun of Christians? What is moral about being judgmental? What is moral about suing Christians just because you don’t agree with them? What is moral about taking away the rights of Christians and their freedom to worship and celebrate their religion? How can Atheists be offended by something they don’t even believe exists? I don’t believe in the Tooth Fairy. But I’m sure not going to go on a hate-filled, vindictive mission to remove and ban every book, picture or product associated with Tooth Fairies. Nor am I going to publish anti-Tooth Fairy literature, put up billboards & signs, boycott businesses who sell Tooth Fairy items, lecture at schools (“because children need to know the truth”), or do newspaper, radio and TV interviews. Think this sounds ridiculous? Well, so does what Atheists are doing. I believe others have the right to believe in the Tooth Fairy. If seeing a picture of a Tooth Fairy in a public place offends me or sets me off, take me to a psychiatric ward. For I have serious mental issues that need to be dealt with if I believe a Tooth Fairy is a threat to me and others. I might not like seeing a Tooth Fairy ornament in a store, but I don’t have to look at it or buy it. No one wants or needs my opinion or approval. It’s called our freedom to choose. We can choose to be a part of a polite, respectful society. We can choose to be fair, reasonable and tolerant. We can choose to act like responsible adults. We can choose to be happy and live our lives without infringing on the rights of others. Or….we can choose to be complete assholes with a chip on our shoulder who is bitter and angry at the world. I’m curious. Why do Atheists demonize Christians but not Muslims?

    • Cthulhu21

      People don’t kill other people in the Tooth Fairy’s name ether. You can’t really associate one’s belief in the Tooth Fairy with another’s belief in a god or gods. People have done terrible things in the name of the gods they believe in.

      • Ihatestupidppl

        You are being too literal. You totally missed the point. You are also going back to the beginning of time. What non-religious and religious groups have non been guilty of actions that we deem inappropriate today? So you are fighting Christians today for long-ago history? Weak and ridiculous. You are like a child holding a grudge. You are also a bigot. What don’t you target the real enemy – Islam. They were barbarians in 622 CE and continue to be the same today. According to your ideology, we need to punish the current generation whose ancestors owned slaves, and those whose ancestors participated in the horrible crimes against American Indians. Let’s declare war on the Japanese whose relatives planned and carried out a sneak attack on innocent Americans. While we’re at it. every German needs to be tried for war crimes by their ancestors. Makes real sense, doesn’t it?????? People can and do kill others in anyone’s name. I could start a campaign tomorrow that Tooth Fairys’ are evil, angels of Satan. I’d have thousands of sheeple within a month. I noticed how you avoided answering my questions and replying to the facts in my comment. Is it because you know I am right and you have no intelligent rebuttal? Now, give me a REAL, FACTUAL reason for hating Christians.

        • Cthulhu21

          Hey, I was just trying to point out that your comparison of your god and the Tooth fairy is a false analogy. I wouldn’t call that being overly literal, or giving a reason to hate Christians, so much as pointing out the flaw in your argument.

          • Ihatestupidppl

            I’ve already explained in great detail the problems I have with some Atheists…..based on FACTS. There is no flaw in my argument – you just don’t comprehend what I am saying. To summarize, Atheists say they are humanitarians who live moral lives with values. False. My first comment disputes their “morals”. As for being humanitarians, there is nothing humanitarian about trying to take away the rights of and destroy the practices of Christians. Christians are their fellow-man, whether they like it or not. Atheists might try to hind behind pretty buzz words, but God has made Christians smart enough to see right through them. They can shout from rooftops what wonderful people they are. Their actions cry out louder then any words they speak.

          • Cthulhu21

            If the point of your argument (in part) was to make it seem like an atheists critique of God(s) is as silly as critiquing the tooth fairy since it seems so silly to us anyway, I think got the point all too well.
            I said the tooth fairy argument was fallacious because atheist don’t attack your arguments for your belief soley because they think it’s silly. It’s because of what so many of you have done in the name of your god(s).
            I’m not just talking about what many religious people have done in the past, I’m talking about what many of you are doing today. To get back to what I’ve said before, your comparison of atheists criticizing religious belief to criticizing belief in the tooth fairy is a false analogy; it doesn’t just minimalize our arguments it minimalizes your also. I mean, your comparing your god to the tooth fairy, that doesn’t help you.
            (I’ll be ignoring you after this.)

          • Ihatestupidppl

            What ego. I could care less if you ignore me. I am confident that your reason for doing this is because you are unable to dispute the issues. If you really wanted to ignore me, you wouldn’t have replied. LOL

            Typical Atheist.
            1. No one has an intelligent argument but you.
            2. You dismiss anyone who produces facts and refuse to discuss the truth.
            3. It’s your way or no way.
            4. It’s ok for you to do what you please but no one else is allowed to.
            4. You’re right and everyone else is wrong. You have to justify your words and actions so you convince yourselves of this.
            5. You’re bitter and angry. You have a chip on your shoulder.
            6. You are filled with hate.
            7. You are miserable and have few friends. You rarely get along with co-workers. Even your families are ashamed of you.
            8. Psychiatric studies confirm 1-7, and suggest Atheists suffer from a variety of psychiatric disorders.

            I never compared God to the Tooth Fairy. You really are thick. The Tooth Fairy was merely a concept, the same if I would have chosen a dog, a tree or a bowl of Mac & Cheese. (Do you know get it????) The only thing minimized after this discussion is your IQ. What are Christians doing today that is so upsetting to you??? Let’s hear it. You don’t have a answer. You haven’t had an answer to anything I have asked you. Avoidance makes you look ignorant I take comfort in the fact that I know God exists, and one day you will answer to Him.

          • Ihatestupidppl

            *now – not know.

          • Deanjay1961

            Yah, it’s atheists who are bigots against Christians, it’s not like there are Christians happy to crap all over us at the slightest provoc…oh wait, that’s you. Fortunately, most Christians aren’t like you, or I would think less of them.

          • Ihatestupidppl

            Blaming Christians for your attitude and actions is an old tactic. Try a new one. The truth doesn’t set will with you, does it? Lol FYI, think you really know me? Think again. I have 2 Atheist friends. While we disagree, I have fought for their rights. You obviously have difficulty with comprehension skills. I already stated I could care less you are Atheists. I only care that you respect my rights as a Christian the same as I do yours as Atheists. What you think of me is moot. I only answer to God, not mere mortals.

          • Deanjay1961

            There is no flaw in my argument – you just don’t comprehend what I am saying.

          • Ihatestupidppl

            I’ll send an alert to God that the second perfect man is walking this earth.

      • Fred Park

        Come to think about it, every bad thing not done in the name of religion most have been done in the name of atheism.

        • Fred Park

          I know this is a very bad generalism and not true, but it is the same kind of dumb talk I keep hearing from your people.

        • Cthulhu21

          Give me some examples please.

      • Cthulhu21

        I am thankful for the edit button.

    • Deanjay1961

      Christians can and do have all the billboards they want. Don’t conflate the Christianist tendency to want their advertising on government property with private bilboards. Complaining about Christianists isn’t the same thing as demonizing Christians. In the USA, Christianists are more likely than Muslims to be pushing the boundaries of the law concerining separtion of religion and government, so they draw our attention more frequently. It’s human nature to give more attention to what’s happening in our backyard than on the other side of the world. If it makes you feel any better, I think the world will be a better place when the secular power of Islam is broken.

      • Ihatestupidppl

        I personally was involved in two separate Christian Billboard fights on PRIVATE PROPERTY. Atheists wanted them removed. Over 1,000 Christians showed up to protest. Atheists lost. We won. I strongly take offense about Christians vs Muslims. Your reasoning is an excuse. You don’t see Christians in the US news everyday pushing their beliefs like Muslims do. Nor do we say convert or die. Neither do we force you to eat what we eat (Halal) or wear what we wear. Why don’t you try to tell a Muslim that it is your right to be an Atheist? Make funeral arrangements first. If you think Islam in only on the other side of the world, you must be living underground. At least we agree about Islam. FYI: Many ppl mistakenly think “separation of church and state” is in our Constitution. It isn’t. What confuses people is Jefferson’s letter; “should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church and State. Our Forefathers wanted to make sure religion was protected FROM the government. Our founders came to America to escape religious persecution. Religious freedom was a priority with our Forefathers as it is the first issue addressed in our Constitution.

        • Deanjay1961

          If athesits protested a Christian billboard on private property, and that’s the entirety of the issues of the case, the atheists were in the wrong.
          You don’t see Christians in the US news everyday pushing hteir beliefs because you’re not paying attention. It’s an almost daily occurrence of attempts to alter science textbooks, have teacher-led prayer in public schools, denying troops the right to have humanist chaplains, having religious rallies in public school asssemblies, Christian displays on government property…to a Christianist (as opposed to a Christian) the law is comething to be circumvented if they think it is at odds with their religion.
          If we’re going to quote founders, here’s one from Madison, aka, the Father of the Constitution: “The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries.”
          You won’t find a right to vote or a right to a fair trial from a literal reading of the Constitution either. Fortunately the high court recognizes the value of examining the writings of the architects of the Constitution to determine the framers intent where there is controversy about it.

          • Ihatestupidppl

            As mere mortals, we will never agree on this topic. I don’t just believe in the Bible or have faith bc someone told me to. I have witnessed some amazing things where there is no other logical or scientific explanation. If you ever see an Angel, hear a Choir of Angels singing from Heaven or have a deceased love one come to you, then you might feel differently. Before you make fun of me, I have never used drugs, rarely have a glass of wine, and I don’t have mental problems. I experienced these miracles alone – without brainwashing or influence from others. I’m content to carry on with my beliefs. I look forward to the day when God will vindicate me.

          • Deanjay1961

            I agree, I might feel differently if I had the same experiences you have. I might make fun of bad logic, but your personal experiences are another matter. It might be the very nature of religious experiences is to convince, or it might be that if the same thing happened to me I would interpret it differently. If there is a God, that might be how God lets people know God exists. Only you can evaluate your subjective experiences. Having a religious experience doesn’t mean anything is wrong with you. I do note that people of other religions claim to have experiences that convince them that their religions are true, which poses issues as far as understanding them as coming from outside ourselves.

          • Ihatestupidppl

            Thank you. I will share one experience that may enlighten you..My beloved nephew Michael who was like a son to me, committed suicide at age 24. We buried him on Christmas Eve. Devastating doesn’t describe it. It ripped our hearts out of our chests. My son and him grew up like brothers. His parents and siblings were so worried he wasn’t in Heaven. They prayed and prayed for a sign. My family believes I am the most spiritual in our family. So they felt if Michael was going to get word to us, it would be through me. When the one year anniversary was approaching, I stopped by the cemetery to place Christmas Wreaths on his grave and on my husband’s and mom’s graves. I knelt at Michael’s grave, prayed for him, then asked him to send me a sign that he was at peace, happy and where he wanted to be. I had done this many times before with no results, but I had faith. I went home telling no one. About 2 am, I couldn’t sleep. I lay on my couch watching TV. My cell phone was in the kitchen turned off. I did this every night bc I heard it saved your battery. Everyone knew to call me on my home phone late at night. I heard my cell phone beep that I had an incoming message. I thought, WTH? I went to the kitchen and my cell was blinking that I had a message come in. I looked at it. It said, MICHAEL. That was it. I checked to see what number it had come from. It showed 000 000 0000. I tried to save the message to show family but it wouldn’t let me. Some will think this was a fluke or some technical glitch. I know better. We finally got the answer we had prayed for. Michael was ok and at peace. I can’t explain why it took a year. Some believe when we die we go on a journey before we are “settled”. It doesn’t really matter to me. What matters is God helped ease our pain by reassuring us.

          • Deanjay1961

            I’m very sorry for your loss. And glad you don’t believe suicides go to hell.

          • Ihatestupidppl

            Thank you. No, my belief is God is would never punish someone just because their pain was too much to bare.

  • Domenic

    I agree with this; “Religion is not charity. It’s business masquerading as charity.”
    I have not found one religion that teaches the Bible truths. I believe all religions are false. Do I believe in God?…YES. Do I believe the Bible is Gods Written Word? YES. Do I believe Jesus is the Son of God? YES.
    Do I believe all those who reject Jesus will die at Gods hand? Yes.
    Do I care what others think? NO.

  • Thea

    While the statement that merely sending rosaries & bibles is not enough, I take great exception to the concept that religious institutions do not help. There is an entire network of denominations (I am Presbyterian) who work together following disasters. The Baptists go in first with the Red Cross & Salvation Army. These groups run the triage, so to speak. Most of the mainlines, we go in at about the three month mark and continue the relief efforts. Please go to http://www.pcusa.org and search for the PDA (Presbyterian Disaster Assistance). Following Katrina, we went in and helped rebuild (some of our PDA workers are still fighting for the government aid to arrive) and PDA covered the salaries of all the employees of Presbyterian churches displaced by Katrina for 2 years. We are not talking about the clergy. The janitors, secretaries, musicians, daycare workers and other non ordained positions.
    I have no issue with someone choosing to not believe in God, but please do not lump us all in with the Westboro Baptist Nazis, wacko fundamentalists or tea party right wingers. Most mainline denomiations want people to ask questions, are social justice oriented, and believe that science and faith are compatible.
    Respectfully,
    Rev. Dr. Thea A McKee

  • Wiggles

    I stopped apologizing and being moderate about religious god beliefs after 9/11. No more singing koombaya and “we can all just get along” BS. You say you believe in sky-fairies, I look at you like you have 2 heads. End of story. I understand the fact that 95% of the world believe in gods… I dont give crap. If you’re wrong, you’re wrong.. I don’t care how many people believe it. We few critical thinkers and scientist live in the real world … we’re just waiting for the rest of the world to join us.

    • ShakingMyHead

      Such intense bigotry there.

      I wish we could hurry up and prove the existence of God already. These ignorant statements and getting quite annoying. But of course, we might almost never discover how to supernaturally influence our universe instead of scientifically, and by that time, we would both be dead and I would be unable to laugh at your mental spasms as you tried to comprehend such phenomena, and gloat on how stupid you were to be assured that the very thing that was staring you in the face did not exist.

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  • Jesusrules

    So sad, I`m just glad I don`t have to look at them.

  • A Real Person

    God bless everyone!

  • Smith_90125

    The ads by atheists.org aren’t “offensive”, they’re telling the truth, and THAT is what’s pissing off the religious.

    True charity is given without conditions. It does NOT discriminate or demand something in return. Demanding the imposition of religion before giving help is like demanding sex from a woman whose car broke down in a desert before giving her a ride to the next town. It’s repugnant and vile.

    Prayer is laziness, an excuse for doing nothing. And that is what the religious want to do: nothing, if they can get away with it. They will only do something *IF* they benefit from it.

  • NWaff

    Most relief organizations have a Christian origin – Red Cross, Salvation Army, Southern Baptist Convention, Samaritan’s Purse, etc… and the atheists are complaining – it figures.

    • Jeroen Metselaar

      Nope.
      Most Christian “charity” is either a con or forced proselytizing to vulnerable people. It is telling that you mention the humanist and secular Red Cross as a christian organization, you really have no clue.

  • NWaff

    another example of atheists being haters.
    Perhaps American Atheists President David Silverman can publish his report on the amount of money and time given by Christians. since he must know.
    When hurricane Sandy hit the east coast, many people from the Southern Baptist Convention were living in Walmart and Home Depot parking lots, feeding and caring for thousands of people.
    I love the atheists exploiting tragedy by complaining that Christians are exploiting tragedy.

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  • Jimmy T

    Don’t you LOVE how Danielle and her deluded admirers are offended by “atheist arrogance”, but then in the next breath state how they just “know” the punishment that awaits nonbelievers? Who is the arrogant one? My my, what idiocy.

  • veganri

    Israel sent a large medical team with doctors and supplies. Jews around the world raised and sent money.

  • Michael John Bertrand

    You people are determined to convince the world that all atheists are spiteful twats, aren’t you? What is wrong with sending Bibles and rosaries? I am sure there are a lot of Catholics in the Philippines who will greatly appreciate them. Not all forms of comfort are material. And to spend money on spiteful, nasty billboards that could have gone to the relief fund is, if anything, even *more* hypocritical. It’s people like the American Atheist that have forced me to stop calling myself an atheist and call myself a nontheist instead.

    I used to be proud to be an atheist. Now it brings nothing but shame.

    My humanism is stronger than your cynicism.

    • Deanjay1961

      The billboards didn’t cost AA a cent. It’s in the article. And go ahead and convert if you don’t like being an atheist.

  • Fred Park

    { People have done terrible things in the name of the gods they believe in.}

    Cthulhu21,

    Come to think about it, every bad thing not done in the name of religion most have been done in the name of atheism.

    • Fred Park

      I know this is a very bad generalism and not true, but it is the same kind of dumb talk I keep hearing from you folks.

      • Cthulhu21

        Would it have been better if I typed “many people”?

        • Guest

          And I edited it so it does. The edit button is very helpful.

  • Shumphreys

    By looking at the Billboards it looks as though the AA group condemns others for what they sent (prayers, bibles and beads) while wasting their own money on Billboards. That as someone pointed out is a PR blunder and backfires in their face. There are other ways to get their message across, on talk shows, in op ed pieces in the papers, on social media, blogs, etc. Ways that really are free.
    But those ways to build up their own Egos and sense of self-righteousness.
    Many years ago there were reports in the news about 12 Indigenous Grandmothers (a group of native american women) who were gathering on one of the Sioux reservations to pray for the young men. I shook my head sadly at the time thinking it would have been more useful if they had actually done something constructive that helped those young men get the skills they needed to compete in the wider world AND helped them understand who they were as young Indian men, appreciate their history (good and bad) and learn their old traditions.
    Religious people do take advantage of disasters to proslytyze which is what they are actually doing by sending those bibles and beads eventhough they claim that isn’t their purpose. Their motives are just as transparent as those of AA!

    • Deanjay1961

      Sigh. AA didn’t pay a cent for the billboards. It’s in the article.

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  • bender

    The Catholic organization Caritas International was one of the first relief groups on the ground in the Philippines, providing food, water, clothing, medicine, and rebuilding assistance. The U.S. affiliate, Catholic Relief Services, mobilized immediately and was there very quickly as well. These Catholic relief organizations are able to respond immediately all over the world because they are already there. They have been there. They will continue to be there. These Catholic groups are able to go places that secular governmental groups do not even try to go, providing care, comfort, and true charity, which is from the Latin “caritas,” meaning “love.” Meanwhile, each of these Catholic organizations, not to mention every parish in the U.S., as well as those throughout the world, has taken up monetary collections to help out.

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  • Joe

    My parents catholic church in east Texas just built a $600,000 rec center that according to my mother they don’t need. $400K of that is still owed and will only be paid off by donations from parishioners(I know that last part is redundant.) That is their top priority for fund raising. My mom said they just opened a collection for the Philippines THIS WEEK(12-15-2013) and there was only a couple hundred dollars in it so far.
    To “SuperLogic”, the article clearly states that the American Atheists do not claim to be a charitable organization but provides visitors with links to actual relief organizations where they can donate.

  • Susan Langlo Killian

    I was curious when I heard the debates about some of your billboards so I looked you guys up. Personally, your signs don’t offend me because every American is entitled to free expression regarding their beliefs, But what I find highly offensive is the outright lies in this article. You have your beliefs fine but if they are so strong why do you need to misrepresent the truth….go ahead…have at it but at least be honest…your own words do way more to damage your credibility than any argument from the other side. Above this is written:

    “While at least $300 million has been pledged by nations around the world to help survivors of Super Typhoon Haiyan, the Catholic Bishop Conference of the Philippines, a billion-dollar non-government organization, has responded to the disaster by sending 1,000 bibles and 12,000 rosaries to survivors, according to CBS News. Additionally, the Pope tweeted for Catholics to pray for the typhoon victims. His message was retweeted 30,000 times.”

    I am sure the Bishops conference did what is said above… this would be spiritual comfort for a predominantly Catholic country but here’s the problem with the rest of what was said…. Just because you see no point in it doesn’t mean that the filipino people did not. Then you go on make it appear that that was all that was done. This is dishonest of you. I will give you a few facts with references. CRS was the first on the scene with resources…why? because the Church was already there. The Church’s main mission is to care for the poor…anywhere there are poor there are Catholics feeding, clothing and sheltering the poor already… http://crs.org/typhoon-haiyan/. Also see
    http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2002-04-14/table-the-u-dot-s-dot-catholic-church-how-it-works

    The Catholic Church is the largest charitable organization in the world. It feeds, clothes, heals, and educates more poor people than all others combined. Hopefully you’ll read the links and hopefully you will correct your statements… I am not too optimistic because most likely, my feeling is, that you will delete this… that is what most freethinkers do when confronted with the truth. Happy Solstice or what ever it is you celebrate…

  • Susan Langlo Killian

    I was curious when I heard the
    debates about some of your billboards so I looked you guys up. Personally, your
    signs don’t offend me because every American is entitled to free expression
    regarding their beliefs, But what I find highly offensive is the outright lies
    in this article. You have your beliefs fine but if they are so strong why do
    you need to misrepresent the truth….go ahead…have at it but at least be
    honest…your own words do way more to damage your credibility than any
    argument from the other side. Above this is written:

    “While
    at least $300 million has been pledged by nations around the world to help
    survivors of Super Typhoon Haiyan, the Catholic Bishop Conference of the
    Philippines, a billion-dollar non-government organization, has responded to the
    disaster by sending 1,000 bibles and 12,000 rosaries to survivors, according to
    CBS News. Additionally, the Pope tweeted for Catholics to pray for the typhoon
    victims. His message was retweeted 30,000 times.”

    I am
    sure the Bishops conference did what is said above… this would be spiritual
    comfort for a predominantly Catholic country but here’s the problem
    with the rest of what was said…. Just because you see no point in it doesn’t
    mean that the filipino people did not. Then you go on make it appear
    that that was all that was done. This is dishonest of you. I will give you a
    few facts with references. CRS was the first on the scene with resources…why?
    because the Church was already there. The Church’s main mission is to care for
    the poor…anywhere there are poor there are Catholics feeding, clothing and
    sheltering the poor already… http://crs.org/typhoon-haiyan/. Also see

    http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2002-04-14/table-the-u-dot-s-dot-catholic-church-how-it-works

    The Catholic Church is the largest charitable
    organization in the world. It feeds, clothes, heals, and educates more poor
    people than all others combined. Hopefully you’ll read the links and hopefully
    you will correct your statements… I am not too optimistic because most
    likely, my feeling is, that you will delete this… that is what most
    freethinkers do when confronted with the truth. Happy Solstice or what ever it
    is you celebrate…

  • Susan Langlo Killian

    I was curious when I heard the
    debates about some of your billboards so I looked you guys up. Personally, your
    signs don’t offend me because every American is entitled to free expression
    regarding their beliefs, But what I find highly offensive is the outright lies
    in this article. You have your beliefs fine but if they are so strong why do
    you need to misrepresent the truth….go ahead…have at it but at least be
    honest…your own words do way more to damage your credibility than any
    argument from the other side. Above this is written:

    “While
    at least $300 million has been pledged by nations around the world to help
    survivors of Super Typhoon Haiyan, the Catholic Bishop Conference of the
    Philippines, a billion-dollar non-government organization, has responded to the
    disaster by sending 1,000 bibles and 12,000 rosaries to survivors, according to
    CBS News. Additionally, the Pope tweeted for Catholics to pray for the typhoon
    victims. His message was retweeted 30,000 times.”

    I am
    sure the Bishops conference did what is said above… this would be spiritual
    comfort for a predominantly Catholic country but here’s the problem
    with the rest of what was said…. Just because you see no point in it doesn’t
    mean that the filipino people did not. Then you go on make it appear
    that that was all that was done. This is dishonest of you. I will give you a
    few facts with references. CRS was the first on the scene with resources…why?
    because the Church was already there. The Church’s main mission is to care for
    the poor…anywhere there are poor there are Catholics feeding, clothing and
    sheltering the poor already… http://crs.org/typhoon-haiyan/. Also see

    http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2002-04-14/table-the-u-dot-s-dot-catholic-church-how-it-works

    The Catholic Church is the largest charitable
    organization in the world. It feeds, clothes, heals, and educates more poor
    people than all others combined. Hopefully you’ll read the links and hopefully
    you will correct your statements… Please… let’s have an honest discussion.

  • Susan Langlo Killian
  • Susan Langlo Killian

    “I am sure the Bishops conference did what is said above… this would be spiritual comfort for a predominantly Catholic country but here’s the problem with the rest of what was said…. Just because Atheists see no point in it doesn’t mean that the filipino people did not. Then you go on make it appear that that was all that was done. This is dishonest of you. I will give you a few facts with references. CRS was the first on the scene with resources…why? because the Church was already there. The Church’s main mission is to care for the poor…anywhere there are poor there are Catholics feeding, clothing and sheltering the poor already… http://crs.org/typhoon-haiyan/. Also see
    http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2002-04-14/table-the-u-dot-s-dot-catholic-church-how-it-works

    The Catholic Church is the largest charitable organization in the world. It feeds, clothes, heals, and educates more poor people than all others combined. Hopefully you’ll read the links and hopefully you will correct your statements… “

  • Susan Langlo Killian

    Here is what the Catholic Church is doing…. they are doing way more than printing billboards like those in this organization…http://crs.org/typhoon-haiyan/ How much has your organization donated to date… just curious

  • Mike Holmes

    How about this for a simple billboard:

    God is unbelievable
    — American Atheists

  • rargos

    “Catholic Bishop Conference of the Philippines, a billion-dollar non-government organization, has responded to the disaster by sending 1,000 bibles and 12,000 rosaries to survivors,”
    Can’t find a source for that, but they gave 35 million pesos ($800,000) in food to the victims.
    Amazing the intellectual dishonesty in a group of people who claim to be guided by reason.

  • rargos

    “Over 5,500 people have died, so Pope Francis leads people in prayer, and they send bibles and rosaries”

    Again, dishonest and misleading. Here’s an articles from the Independent (UK)

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iv-drip/realist-pope-francis-calls-for-concrete-help-for-typhoon-haiyan-survivors-not-just-prayers-8935328.html

    “Realist Pope Francis calls for concrete help for Typhoon Haiyan survivors, not just prayers”

    Here’s the Pope’s own tweet : 10:57 AM – 11 Nov 2013

    We remember the Philippines, Vietnam and the entire
    region hit by Typhoon Haiyan. Please be generous with prayers and concrete
    help.

    Again, I’m absolutely amazed at the misinformation and outright dishonesty being spread here. Can’t you attack religion without making up things?

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  • JH

    Total crap, church members show up donating time, food money, clothing etc…You spend money to lie

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