Astrobiologist & Simpsons Director to Speak at National Atheist Convention

Today, American Atheists announced David Morrison, astrobiologist and director of the Carl Sagan Center at the SETI Institute, and David Silverman, director of the television show The Simpsons and the movie Monsters, Inc., as the final two speakers for its national convention in Salt Lake City, Utah, April 17-20.

The announcement came while the organization’s president, David Silverman, was a guest on David Viviano’s show Atheist Hangouts. Silverman also divulged the entertainers who will be starring at the annual comedy show during the convention. They are comedians Thea Deley, Jon Dore, Gary Stockdale, and Eric Schwartz.

“American Atheists is throwing the largest atheist celebration of the year in Salt Lake City. We are bringing speakers from all over the country and from all backgrounds to show that atheists are everywhere,” Silverman said. “We invite you to join us! Come explore your doubt with us; come see how wonderful life without faith is.”

David Silverman is best known for directing more than 30 episodes of The Simpsons, The Simpsons Movie, and Monsters, Inc.

David Silverman is best known for directing more than 30 episodes of The Simpsons, The Simpsons Movie, and Monsters, Inc.

David Morrison is an astrobiologist and director of the Carl Sagan Center at the SETI Institute.

David Morrison is an astrobiologist and director of the Carl Sagan Center at the SETI Institute.

For more information about American Atheists National Convention, please visit our website.

Tickets are now on sale.

 

 

  • rargos

    SETI (search for extraterrestrial intelligence) has yet to turn up a single piece of evidence to support the theory that there is intelligent life on other planets — how is being an “astrobiologist” different from being religious, as both have no scientific evidence to back them up?

    Seems to me that believing in theorhetical aliens is no different than believing in God. Choosing a speaker from SETI to talk atheism is more than slightly ironic.

    • RTreece

      http://www.seti.org/node/647

      Searching for extraterrestrials is only part of what they do. However, the odds that life only started on Earth is nearly impossible given how many planets there are. The fact that there ate amino acids on asteroids is sufficient evidence to merit trying to look at this. No one is saying there are extraterrestrials, but it is more likely than a deity simply because it is testable.

      • rargos

        “the odds that life only started on Earth is nearly impossible given how many planets there are”

        Unscientific, undefinable, and untestable. You presume a certain probability (however miniscule) that life will spontaneously arise out of non-living things, but there has not been a single observed case of this happening.

        You statement is no different than me saying “given how many planets there are, there must be at least one on which an iPad will turn into a BigMac every other Thursday”. If the probabilty of something is zero, it doesn’t matter how many trials you perform or events you observe — the event will never happen.

        • Thought Police

          How many planets can you observe rarogs? It is definable in that you have countered that it is not, it would be testable IF we had the means to observe every planet in the universe.

          I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind except that you happen to be insane.

          • disqus_KZV54l7H97

            Good ‘un !!!

          • rargos

            ???

          • rargos

            You don’t understand basic math: if the probability of an event is zero, then the number of trials (in this case, planets) could be infinite — the number of outcomes for that event will still be zero.

            If the probability of life arising spontaneously out of non-living things was 1 x 10^-10 and there were a hundred billion planets, then one would expect to find life on some of these planets. However, since no one has ever obseved the spontaneous generation of life or even been able to make this happen artifically, the current experimentally-determined probability of life arising from non-living things is zero.

            If you’re lonely and want people to talk to you, acting like a mature adult and avoiding insults, profanity, and violent imagery would be a good place to start. I was very willing to discuss / debate with you during the brief period when you acted like a rational intellectual, but you’re more recent comments have made it extremely unlikely that I (or anyone else) would be interested in ever exchanging ideas with you ever again.

          • Thought Police

            The last part of my previous comment was a quote from George Orwell’s 1984, which my name also is derived from. You still have not addressed ANY of the bible verses that I have provided you with by way of evidencing the inherently dangerous and self-contradictory nature or your religion.
            I am not lonely, like you and anyone else, I am here for the novelty and entertainment. You fucking ass, the use of profanity and insults is not by default indicative of a lack of maturity, intelligence, or reasoning. The issue in a few rare cases must be that a likewise rarely intelligent and masterfully articulate person simply enjoys the use of irreverent speech as it on occasion helps better illustrate the absurdity and ignorance of the points/people being reprehended.
            You can be as butt-hurt about some words as you like, your negative emotions are merely a partial victory. Atheism should be coupled with unforgivingly and unapologetically aggressive intellectual tactics. For every person that has ever been negatively affected by religion, for everyone that is alive today, and for the future of humanity and all of the species of this planet, I absolutely will not pull my punches for the sake of some misguided and falsely placed sense of political correctness. If you don’t like how I respond to your disgusting idiocy, why not adopt a more reasonable position? If you take offense to the means by which I secure my ends, perhaps some compassion and understanding are in order.
            But seriously, have you honestly convinced yourself that humanity is the only intelligent life within the entire observable and unobservable universe? Even if you can bring yourself to deny the relevance of the Drake equation as a starting point, can you then proceed to force yourself to believe that your deity created an entire universe with only one semi-intelligent species so that it could worry about what the talking apes did with their genitals?
            Let’s say there are 100 billion planets in our galaxy alone, the majority of those are going to be small like Earth or Mars. From that, the likelihood of extraterrestrial life and then alien intelligence is overwhelmingly high. A lot higher, I might add, than say an invisible man in the sky or a talking snake. Although, on one of those planets, you might very well be able to find the analog of talking snakes and/or transparent sky-dwelling intelligent entities.
            I’m afraid my poor little rargos, that reality bears the fact that it is YOU who are remiss in matters of basic mathematics. Speaking of begging, isn’t it time for you to beg the question, again?

          • rargos

            “You fucking ass, the use of profanity and insults is not by default indicative
            of a lack of maturity, intelligence, or reasoning.” – ThoughtPolice

            In that case perhaps you should use them at work and with your friends, assuming you actually have a job and/or friends.

          • Thought Police

            Oh no! You’ve discovered my only weakness, the passive-aggressive insinuation of inferiority! I’m melting! Oh god, I’m fucking melting…
            So you have no response to any of the legitimate points that I have presented you with other than to shift the focus to trivia. You really can’t help but to continue your own damnation of your positions, can you? It must be a horrible feeling indeed to have trapped yourself into being your own worst enemy.
            So, how about those bible verses? Or are we still dancing around what you don’t want to face?

        • riccardo

          boson of Gibbs weren’t observed untill very recently, graviton have not yet been observed. Both have been speculated theoreticay. Abiogenesis is a very rich field full of different theoretical perspectives and inetresting testable and experimntal resoults. Of course we didnt see anything alive coming out of the laboratory bulbs, but life origin the graal of biochemistry

        • Thought Police
          • rargos

            Providing links to scientific articles whose content you clearly don’t understand just makes you look even more desperate for attention.

          • Thought Police

            You’re transference is showing…again. What you meant to say was: “Gee there pal, I guess I was wrong. Maybe I don’t have a definitive answer for everything after all. Please forgive my asinine presumptions and lack of self-respect. I sure am embarrassed, and will try in the future to not be an expert on shit that I don’t really know anything about.”

            That’s when I would tell you that I don’t forgive you, and that I hope you die of a brain aneurism while driving a bus full of Christians down the freeway. Then we’d both laugh, and you’d die of a brain aneurism, because sometimes the universe is beautiful like that.

          • Cthulhu21

            If you really think he doesn’t understand the content, why don’t you ask him about it instead of calling him an attention whore?

          • rargos

            When someone says things like:

            “I hope you die of a brain aneurism while driving a bus full of Christians down the freeway.”

            it’s pretty clear they’re not interested in a mature discussion of anything.

            I actually read and researched both the abstract and the article, and they have nothing at all to do with life “spontaneously aris[ing] out of the right combination of elements and environment.” I also Googled the URL and found (surprise, surprise) it on quite a few atheist websites in lists of other equally irrelevant URLs that purportedly show examples of life originating from non-living things. It’s painfully clear that this is yet another case of someone simply repeating information without either understanding it or even checking that it means what they *think* it means.

          • Cthulhu21

            Then why don’t you ask him what he thinks it means and see if correlataes with the content in the article?

          • rargos

            Simple – because he’s immature and abusive. Calling someone “you fucking ass” is an excellent way to ensure that people ignore you.

          • Thought Police

            What an ass. If you’re going to perpetually be contrary for the sake of molesting the truth, be passive-aggressive like a smart-ass 1940’s housewife in failed attempts at being clever, be willfully ignorant, and at every given opportunity sidestep the issue in glaring attempts to obfuscate the topic and avoid having to actually deal with what should obliterate your faith, you will remain a fucking jackass. You just can’t see yourself for what you are, can you?

            Let us discuss these: Deuteronomy 17:12
            Exodus 22:17
            Leviticus 20:13
            Leviticus 20:27
            Exodus 21:15
            Proverbs 20:20
            Leviticus 20:9
            Leviticus20:10
            Leviticus 21:9
            Exodus 22:19
            2 Chronicles 15:12-13
            Zechariah 13:3
            Deuteronomy 13:13-19
            Deuteronomy 22:20-21
            Deuteronomy 13:7-12
            Deuteronomy 17:2-5
            Leviticus 24:10-16
            Deuteronomy 13:1-5
            Deuteronomy 18:20-22
            Romans 1:24-32
            Numbers 1:48-51
            Exodus 31:12-15
            2 Kings 2:23-24
            1 Samuel 6:19-20
            1 Kings 20:35-36
            2 Samuel 6:3-7
            Isaiah 14:21
            Hosea 9:11-16
            Ezekiel 9:5-7
            Exodus 12:29-30
            Jeremiah 51:20-26
            Leviticus 26:21-22
            Isaiah 13:15-18
            Judges 15:14-15
            Acts 5:1-11
            1 Samuel 15:2-3
            Jeremiah 48:10
            Joshua 19:47
            Jeremiah 15:1-4
            Ezekiel 35:7-9
            Exodus 23:23
            Joshua 8:1-29
            Joshua6:20-21
            1 Kings 14:9-16
            Judges 20:48
            2 Kings 19:35
            Exodus 32:26-29
            Joshua 7:19-26
            Numbers 25:1-9
            1 Kings 18:36-40
            Jeremiah 50:21-22
            Judges 18:27-29

          • rargos

            Grow up, Austin Guthridge

          • Thought Police

            Austin Guthridge does not exist.

          • rargos
          • Cthulhu21

            It just says “Page Not Found” when I click on it.

          • rargos

            That’s because he deleted both that and his facebook page — guess he’s not proud of what he says when he “exercises his first ammendment rights”.

            Try this link (which he can’t delete because its Google’s cache of the webpage.

            http://tinyurl.com/p69b4nu

            You can read his own words when you scroll down, including such things as:

            “I’m pretty racist. Not like redneck KKK racist, but I believe that history speaks for itself.”

            “I love trolling the forums.”

            “Miley fucking Cyrus, I’d like to meat her. Get it? I spelled it meat, as in the meat of my reproductive organs.”

            Classy stuff.

          • Thought Police

            First of all, I don’t know what particular brand of mental illness would lead you to fabricate such defamatory lies, but I can assure you that if I believed that anyone took what you say here seriously, I would pursue a lawsuit against you. Secondly, when you’re done playing with your “quotes” of what I’ve never in my life said or written, why don’t you address the points that I’ve made here? Only people as stupid as you are going to be distracted with your smoke and mirrors.
            Oh, wow. The detail of which you have applied to that fake page is really quite nearly artistic. It’s a shame that you don’t focus such time and energy into dealing with reality.

          • rargos

            Fake page? Please explain how I could have created a fake page about you using your real name BEFORE you even signed up for Disqus or made your first post here.

            So after I created a page to defame someone who I didn’t even know existed, I then deleted it ten minutes after posting a link to it here. Your Facebook page (which you admit is yours and is linked to from your Disqus profile) was also deleted at the exact same time. Quite a coincidence.

            Being a liar is bad enough, but being a bad liar is even worse.

          • Thought Police

            My facebook page is certainly not deleted, it is viewable by friends only, as it has been for years, you dunce. Would you like me to take the time out of my day to demonstrate to you and the world the process by which you have fabricated these lies against me? I bet you would. However, your childish antics and baseless accusations are not worthy of any further of my attention, let alone anyone else’s.

            You must destroy all the nations the LORD your God hands over to you. Show them no mercy and do not worship their gods. If you do, they will trap you. Perhaps you will think to yourselves, ‘How can we ever conquer these nations that are so much more powerful than we are?’ But don’t be afraid of them! Just remember what the LORD your God did to Pharaoh and to all the land of Egypt. Remember the great terrors the LORD your God sent against them. You saw it all with your own eyes! And remember the miraculous signs and wonders, and the amazing power he used when he brought you out of Egypt. The LORD your God will use this same power against the people you fear. And then the LORD your God will send hornets to drive out the few survivors still hiding from you! “No, do not be afraid of those nations, for the LORD your God is among you, and he is a great and awesome God. The LORD your God will drive those nations out ahead of you little by little. You will not clear them away all at once, for if you did, the wild animals would multiply too quickly for you. But the LORD your God will hand them over to you. He will throw them into complete confusion until they are destroyed. He will put their kings in your power, and you will erase their names from the face of the earth. No one will be able to stand against you, and you will destroy them all. (Deuteronomy 7:16-24 NLT)

            That is what you would have the world believe in?

          • rargos

            “Would you like me to take the time out of my day to demonstrate to you and the world the process by which you have fabricated these lies against me?”
            It’s really embarassing watching you trying to lie your way out of this instead of standing behind your own words.

            So yes, please do explain how this is all a big setup … I would be EXTREMELY interested to hear how I created a fake account under your real name to defame you before I even knew you existed.

          • Thought Police

            I have been using Disqus, and using it to comment here since before Feb, 12th, 2014. You are a liar, and a fraud, much not unlike your imaginary god.

          • rargos

            You’re one of the most incompetant liars I’ve ever seen. You created that ouroldspace page

            http://tinyurl.com/p69b4nu

            two weeks before you started posting here.

            So I’ll ask again: how could I have created a fake web page about you two weeks before anyone here even knew you existed?

            But I do understand why you continue to lie about making comments like these:

            “I’m pretty racist. Not like redneck KKK racist, but I believe that history speaks for itself.”

            “I love trolling the forums.”

            “Miley fucking Cyrus, I’d like to meat her. Get it? I spelled it meat, as in the meat of my reproductive organs.”

          • Thought Police

            That’s because I’ve never heard of ouroldspace.com until his post here, let alone used it. What he’s doing is attempting to discredit my points here by fabricating lies about me elsewhere and then bringing them here. Such behavior would be infuriating if it weren’t so cute in its immaturity.

          • rargos

            Never used it? Please explain how I could have created a fake page about you using your real name BEFORE you even signed up for Disqus or made your first post here.

            So after I created a page to defame someone who I didn’t even know existed, I then deleted it ten minutes after posting a link to it here. Your Facebook page (which you admit is yours and is linked to from your Disqus profile) was also deleted at the exact same time. Quite a coincidence.

            Being a liar is bad enough, but being a bad liar is even worse.

          • Thought Police

            First of all, you still have neither addressed any of my quite valid point nor privately emailed me so that I may communicate to you just how I feel about your existence and what I think should be done about it. Secondly, in an age where I can create digital evidence of your legally documented pedophilia from September 78th 9826 BC, with little effort and no more than the necessary time, your accusations of me supposedly lying about your actual lies bears no relevance. [email protected] has the information you seek.

          • rargos

            Private email? Why not just say what you have to say here? You certainly weren’t afraid of speaking your mind before. What do you want to say in a private email that you’re unwilling to post publically?

          • Thought Police

            Because I won’t say anything that could be construed as being illegal here you moron. Everything that I’ve stated here is perfectly within my constitutionally protected rights to say. Seriously though, your god is still impossible, with or without your bullshit. As I’m certain you will see in due time.

          • rargos

            So you want to say things to me that might be illegal, but only in a private email? You just can’t quit making things worse for yourself, can you?

          • Guest

            I would like to properly impress upon you the degree to which your games are dangerous.

          • rargos

            Care to elaborate, “Guest”?
            You do realize, Mr. Austin Guthridge aka ThoughtPolice, that the Disqus message notification shows you made this comment to me using your ThoughtPolice handle, then deleted it and reposted it as “Guest”, right?

            And since you’re a convicted felon

            http://tinyurl.com/ojmmcmj

            I would like to properly impress upon you that a phone call to your local police department is not in your best interest.
            I’ve been willing to put up with your profanity, abuse, etc., but I will not hesitate to contact law enforcement with any and all threats you may make here or elsewhere.
            This is the last communication I will have with you.

          • Thought Police

            I deleted it after posting it and then reading it, having had second thoughts about its potentially interpreted meaning. That it was somehow automatically reposted as by a guest account escapes me concerning the process involved. I’m not, after all, as literate in computer processes as I am in some other areas. I’m sure you could tell me all about it though.

            911: What’s your emergency? “Yes, this is Coward Rargos and I’d like to report somebody on the internet saying things that I don’t like.” 911: We’ll send an officer right out…to explain to you that nobody gives a fuck. “But he’s a bad man and I’m afraid that he’s gonna come get me.” 911: STOP BEING A PUSSY! *hangs up*

            rargos, you’ve gotten the idea somewhere that you can somehow shame me with my past or your strange and irrelevant behavior? I love who I am, and am very proud of what I am not. Life is death, and life is pain, but your lashing out will not bring your imaginary friends into existence. If you’re really so worried about me and what I say to you, why don’t you pray that I stop? Or did you already? Funny, I haven’t felt the least bit compelled to cease telling you about yourself and your religion.

            I really do hope that some day, you will be able to see yourself for what you are. That’s part of what your religion is designed to do, assist people from having to face the truth about themselves. If you’re alive, you’re going to eventually die. If you’re alive, you’re going to experience things that you don’t like. If you’re alive, you’re not going to get what you want very often, and you certainly cannot control others. Well, at least not people as strong-willed as I. But when you’re dead, it’s just the same as before you were born. There will be no pain, there will be no disappointment; in death you and I will find nothing but the sweet merciful oblivion of non-existence. In death, we’ll all be exactly like your god; for all intents and purposes, we’ll be god.

          • Thought Police

            Here are the quotes from Jesus that proves that he lied:

            1) And Jesus answered and said to them, “Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,’ it will happen. “And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive.” (Matthew 21:21-22 NAS)

            2) Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. (Matthew 7:7-8 NAB)

            3) Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst. (Matthew 18:19-20 NAS)

            4) Amen, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him. Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours. (Mark 11:24-25 NAB)

            5) And I tell you, ask and you will receive; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. (Luke 11:9-13 NAB)

            6) And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it. (John 14:13-14 NAB)

            7) If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask for whatever you want and it will be done for you. (John 15:7 NAB)

            8) It was not you who chose me, but I who chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit that will remain, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name he may give you. (John 15:16 NAB)

            9) On that day you will not question me about anything. Amen, amen, I say to you, whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give you. Until now you have not asked anything in my name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be complete. (John 16:23-24 NAB)

          • rargos

            Jesus didn’t say things like this

            “I’m pretty racist. Not like redneck KKK racist, but I believe that history speaks for itself.”

            “I love trolling the forums.”

            “Miley fucking Cyrus, I’d like to meat her. Get it? I spelled it meat, as in the meat of my reproductive organs.”

          • Thought Police

            Jesus said these things though, supposedly: “I am with you always, even unto the end of the world” (Matthew 28:20), versus “For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always” (Matthew 26:11 , Mark 14:7, John 12:8) and “Ye shall seek me, and shall not find me: and where I am thither ye cannot come” (John 7:34). Is this the kind of friend one can rely on?

            And he supposedly said: “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” Matthew 27:46, (also note the time before crucification where Jesus prays for the “cup to passeth over me”) versus “Now is my soul troubled. And what shall I say? ‘Father, save me from this hour?’ No, for this purpose I have come to this hour” (John 12:27 RSV). Jesus can’t seem to decide whether or not he wants to die. One moment he is willing; the next he isn’t.

            Your imaginary buddy also reportedly said this shit too: In John 14:13-14 Jesus stated: “And whatsoever ye ask in my name I do, that the Father may be glorified in the son. If ye ask any thing in my name, I will do it.” In reality, millions of people have made millions of requests in Jesus’ name and failed to receive satisfaction. This promise or prophecy has failed completely.

          • Thought Police

            Explain to me how I have done anything that would constitute “making things worse for myself”. Here, while you’re at it, why don’t you explain this as well: Matthew 6:13 Jesus recites a revised prayer and states, “Don’t bring us into temptation.” God is the cause of everything, even Satan. God has been leading people into temptation since the Garden of Eden. Otherwise, the trees of life and knowledge would have never been there.

            Can we hate our kindred? Luke 14:26 Jesus says “If any man come unto me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brother, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he can not be my disciple.” John 3:15 “Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer.” Also see Ephesians 6:22, 5:25, & Matthew 15:4

            Or how about this: Jesus consistently contradicts himself concerning his Godly status. “I and my father are one.” (John 14:28) Also see Philippians 2:5-6 Those verses lead us to believe that he is a part of the trinity and equal to his father being a manifestation of him. Yet, Jesus also made many statements that deny he is the perfect man, much less God incarnate. Take the following for example: “Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God” (Matthew 19:17). “My father is greater then I.” (John 14:28) Also see Matthew 24:26 Clearly, Jesus is denouncing the possibility of him being the Messiah in those three verses.

          • rargos

            Good thing I saved a copy of Austin Guthridge’s ouroldspace profile before he deleted it (about 2 minutes after a link to it was posted here).

          • Thought Police

            Your harassment is tiptoeing near a cliff that I’m quite certain you do not want to fall off of.

          • rargos

            You do realize that your disqus profile page URL contains your real name, right?

            http://disqus.com/austinguthridge/

          • Thought Police

            Yes. I don’t want to piss all over your parade rargos, but I’m neither a superhero nor a supervillain. Thought Police was not meant to hide my secret identity, I first began posting as Austin Guthridge if you remember, it is merely a nod to my favorite literary work. Speaking of which, ought to be everyone’s favorite book, or at the very least placed above some religious text. Well, idk about that. Some of the Buddhist teachings are pretty fucking nifty, if I do say so myself (and I do). Also, my disqus profile is linked to my Facebook profile which bears my legal name. Whether or not the link is available to people viewing my disqus profile is not known to me.
            Hell, if you want, I’ll give you my home address, phone number, social security number, and a picture of the next shit that I take. lol. I’m not doing anything illegal, and have nothing to fear from either the law or any angry internet people. I regularly exercise my first amendment rights, and often do so at the expense of other people’s beliefs.

          • Thought Police

            If your god is perfect, why did it create the universe? A perfect god is never lonely or bored, needs nothing, desires nothing; a perfect god would simply exist complacently within its own equilibrium. Sentient entities act out of a disequilibrium, that of the search for perfection or to strike a balance between what is, and what is needed and/or wanted. A perfect god seeking more perfection, really? A god who creates and a god who is perfect are two incompatible things.

            But then your perfect god creates imperfection. How does imperfection arise out of perfection? A perfect god created imperfect humans, interesting, but impossible. Your perfect and omnipotent god created humans capable of ruining their own happiness, also impossible. The presence of imperfection in the universe proves the lack of a perfect creator.

            The bible is supposedly god’s perfect word. It contains instructions to humanity for avoiding the eternal fires of hell. How wonderful and kind of your god to provide us with this means of overcoming the problems for which he is ultimately responsible! Your all-powerful god could have, by a mere act of will, eliminated all of the problems that people must endure, but instead, in his infinite wisdom, he has opted to offer this indecipherable amalgam of books which is the bible as a means for avoiding the hell which he has prepared for us. Your perfect god has chosen to reveal his wishes in this imperfect work, written in the imperfect language of imperfect men, translated, copied, interpreted, voted on, and related by imperfect men.

            No two people will ever agree what this perfect word of god is supposed to mean, since much of it is either self-contradictory, or obscured by enigmatic symbols. And yet your perfect god expects all of his imperfect humans to understand this paradoxical riddle using the imperfect minds with which it has equipped us. Surely your all-wise and all-powerful god would have known that it would have been better to reveal his perfect will directly to each of us, rather than to permit it to be debased and perverted by the imperfect language and botched interpretations of humanity.

            And your god allowed men to brutally slaughter his son because he botched his own creation? A god who knows the future is powerless to change it. An omniscient god that is all-powerful and freewilled is impossible.

            A god who knows everything cannot have emotions. The bible says that god experiences all of the emotions of humans, including anger, sadness, and happiness. Humans experience emotions as a result of new stimuli. A person who had formerly been ignorant of their partner’s infidelity will experience the emotions of anger and sadness only after they have learned what had previously been hidden. In contrast, the omniscient god is ignorant of nothing. Nothing is hidden from it, nothing new may be revealed to it, so there is no gained knowledge to which it may emotively react.

            Humans experience anger and frustration when something is wrong which we cannot fix. Your perfect, omnipotent god, however, can fix anything. Humans experience longing for things we lack. The perfect god lacks nothing. An omniscient, omnipotent, and perfect god who experiences emotion is impossible.
            rargos, your religion is founded, built out of, and maintained with lies. It is both recklessly irresponsible and dangerously foolish. Anyone who puts blind faith in it is likewise detrimental to not merely their own society, but to the entirety of humanity as well. I forgive you for your “sins” against humanity and me personally, but I really wish you would throw up that blue pill and take the red one (The Matrix reference).

          • Thought Police

            Speaking of being desperate for attention rargos, message me at [email protected] for a private conversation concerning your behavior here, and how it makes me feel. I would like for you to understand that your lies and fabrications designed to attack my personal character detract nothing from your inability to address the issues that I present you with here.

          • Freedomlovingdadof7

            “Our results show that it is possible to synthesize an infectious agent by in vitro chemical-biochemical means solely by following instructions from a written sequence.”

            Where do you get a spontaneous origin of life from this? In the normal course of events, molecular machinery reads information in the nucleotides. In this case, researchers copied the information from previously sequenced nucleotides, synthesized it, and inserted it back. There never was any demonstration of the spontaneous generation of life.

      • rargos

        Incidentally, I agree that the presence of smino acids on asteroids warrants investigation. I also think that the fact that billions of humans throughout all of human history and in every human culture have developed religious beliefs also warrants investigation.

        Some animals have intelligence, emotions, language, the ability to use tools, etc. but only humans have developed religious beliefs.

        • Thought Police

          Likewise, only humans kill, maim, torture and worse for their imaginary friends. If you’re going to murder an entire population of people, at least have the decency to be honest about your reasons. Don’t blame your crimes on the will of your imaginary master and then defend your inhumanity with the shield of divine purpose. And make no mistake, when you take on a religion, you also adopt it’s history and culture.
          Is that concept offensive to you? Will you argue that you can pick and choose what parts of your religion apply to you and everyone else, and dismiss out of hand anything within its tenets that you find inconvenient and/or counterproductive to your personal agenda? Will you sit before your computer screen and smugly proclaim the lack of belief in your particular deity to be entirely illogical? There is not only a lack of proof for your horribly vile god’s existence, there is not only a lack of evidence of your deity’s presence in reality, there is within the belief system you call home a terribly malicious motive to disregard any portion of reality that spits in the face of the willful ignorance that must be maintained in order to hold faith in said belief system.
          So, once again, how about those bible verses that I earlier on multiple occasions and in multiple places have asked you to clarify? Would you like to discuss the human sacrifices that your god once so loved? Would you like to talk about the implications of worshipping a deity whom not-so-graciously advocates the emotional, mental, legal, and physical subjugation of women? May we hold discourse on the topic of the many, many, quite very many contradictions in the bible? Please, oh so pretty please with a magic fucking cherry on top tell me and the world that the bible holds no self-contradictions.
          Because I would ever so love to be challenged to present somebody with any number of the bible’s self-contradictions. Okay, there’s not THAT many, but about 205 self-contradictions within the supposed word of GOD is not something to be taken lightly or dismissed out of hand as being unimportant or beside the point.

  • Thought Police

    rargos Would you like to discuss any of these: Deuteronomy 17:12
    Exodus 22:17
    Leviticus 20:13
    Leviticus 20:27
    Exodus 21:15
    Proverbs 20:20
    Leviticus 20:9
    Leviticus20:10
    Leviticus 21:9
    Exodus 22:19
    2 Chronicles 15:12-13
    Zechariah 13:3
    Deuteronomy 13:13-19
    Deuteronomy 22:20-21
    Deuteronomy 13:7-12
    Deuteronomy 17:2-5
    Leviticus 24:10-16
    Deuteronomy 13:1-5
    Deuteronomy 18:20-22
    Romans 1:24-32
    Numbers 1:48-51
    Exodus 31:12-15
    2 Kings 2:23-24
    1 Samuel 6:19-20
    1 Kings 20:35-36
    2 Samuel 6:3-7
    Isaiah 14:21
    Hosea 9:11-16
    Ezekiel 9:5-7
    Exodus 12:29-30
    Jeremiah 51:20-26
    Leviticus 26:21-22
    Isaiah 13:15-18
    Judges 15:14-15
    Acts 5:1-11
    1 Samuel 15:2-3
    Jeremiah 48:10
    Joshua 19:47
    Jeremiah 15:1-4
    Ezekiel 35:7-9
    Exodus 23:23
    Joshua 8:1-29
    Joshua6:20-21
    1 Kings 14:9-16
    Judges 20:48
    2 Kings 19:35
    Exodus 32:26-29
    Joshua 7:19-26
    Numbers 25:1-9
    1 Kings 18:36-40
    Jeremiah 50:21-22
    Judges 18:27-29 ???
    Can you justify the worship of a god that is so violent and morally reprehensible? If you would claim to be so far above the type of behavior that you have so thoroughly condemned, then how is it you can pretend such self-righteousness comes from the worship of this deity that you claim is likewise above the murder of children as I’ve just proven without a shadow of a doubt is indeed NOT the case. You are a hypocrite of the sort which is incapable of taking responsibility for their own beliefs, let alone their behavior. You sir are reprehensible in such a profound way that you cannot even begin to comprehend the degree to which I must soil myself to speak to you. But yeah, you’re right, nobody is capable of being as morally righteous as your tragically ironic god, and hopefully nobody is seriously attempting it.
    Anyone who worships a deity as evil and destructive as what is repeatedly accounted in the bible should be placed in a mental hospital, and anyone attempting to infect others with the religion ought to be arrested and tried for crimes against humanity.

  • Thought Police

    I submit that every community needs a Church of Atheism. In order to stay true to the definition and etymological origins of the word church and to better serve the community, they would need at least one atheist equivalent of a priest to lead events and services and to deliver atheist sermons. That way, every community could have an atheist gathering place for citizens to come together for fellowship and weekly services.

    Why have one massive atheist convention at one location only once a year when there could be thousands of these types of meetings on a smaller scale all over the world on a regular basis?

  • rargos

    “Astrobiologist & Simpsons Director to Speak at National Atheist Convention”

    I had no idea the director of the Simpsons is also an astrobiologist :)

    • Cthulhu21

      It says that the director of the Simpsons and the astrobiologist are two separate people in the first paragraph.

      • Thought Police

        Reading comprehension is not one of his strengths.

      • rargos

        It was a joke — hence the :) in my original post. I actually do read every single word of every news article I comment on.

  • Thought Police

    Here’s a beautiful example of god’s love, mercy, and kindness.

    Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

    • rargos

      “Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.”

      Interesting comment from someone who served time for arson.

      • Thought Police

        Really guy? Your god is the ultimate arsonist, what with his eternal lake of fire and whatnot.

      • Thought Police

        In light of all the very many reasons to regard the bible as complete and utter trash, no more than an almost-interesting period piece, you defend it still? I empathize with your desire to seek something more significant than your transient pointless existence, but to so thoroughly devote any portion of your life to something so blatantly irrelevant ought to bring you to your knees for the inescapable assault of debilitating remorse.

        Organized religion is not cute, it’s not healthy, it’s nothing more than smoke and mirrors. I really do feel sorry you and everyone else who has been duped into honestly believing that nonsense. Sometimes, the only way to awaken a sleep-walker and prevent them from harming themselves or somebody else is to shake the shit out of them. You don’t have to like what I’ve told you here, that wasn’t my intention. But if you’ve actually considered my points, then in at least a small capacity I have helped you. And what better way is there to hold captive an individual’s attention than to pique their morbid curiosity, offend them, and put them on the defensive?

        You see? While your mind was busy running around looking for the best way to respond to something so irregular, I was planting seeds in it.

  • Cthulhu21
  • Raphael Argos

    What should we expect David Silverman to be speaking about?

    • Thought Police

      Well Mr. Raphael Argos of North Carolina (specific location omitted for privacy), I’d suggest to you that you visit the convention and find out first hand, but I don’t know how they feel about people carrying concealed firearms on the premises, even though Nevada honors the CCW permits of NC.

      • auntielib

        Apparently the organizers of the event either have no idea what Silverman is going to talk about, or else they think that by keeping his topic “a secret” (oh, wow!) it will encourage people to want to “visit the convention”.

        Be still, my heart! The suspense is almost more than a person can stand. Golly, I hope it’s not too late to book a flight, and that all the hotel rooms in the city are not already taken by the coming “throngs” of Atheists! (snicker)

  • John

    Why would atheists be trying to claim some sort of “wonderfulness” about being an atheist? Is there a tennis course? Scantily clad women? A private beach? I’m an atheist I suppose, but you guys really need to get a life.

    I mean, isn’t an “atheist celebration” just a CELEBRATION?!? I guess to be a real atheist, you have to use the word atheist all the time. And do atheist stuff, whatever that is. Because that’s what we atheists do! Stuff! And stuff.

  • auntielib

    I’m guessing the writings of the prominent FORMER Atheist, Antony Flew, will not be a featured element at the upcoming convention, even though he was a very well-respected Atheist philosopher and very prolific Atheist writer.

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